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  Othawa Pride
Posted by: BA0701 - 05-25-2022, 08:04 PM - Forum: Lion - Replies (1027)
This thread is for posting Othawa Pride specific posts. This will include breakaway prides (until they've re-established themselves and received a name of their own, as well as nomadic males who have left the pride until they have met the same criteria.

Our hope is for these pride specific threads to become a central repository for information pertaining to specific prides, both historical and current, in the same vane as the coalition specific threads.
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  Information on pride specific threads, and an informal poll
Posted by: BA0701 - 05-18-2022, 07:37 PM - Forum: Lion - Replies (19)
All,
     The Mod Team have decided to run a test of giving prides their own thread. We will begin with 5 threads, and I would like input from all of you on which prides we should begin with. The top 5 most suggested prides will be given their own threads.

This is for current established and named prides, with a running history, prides who have built a legacy. Breakaway prides will alo fall under their natal pride threads until they have reached these requirements.

Please, this is not an opportunity to demean certain prides, or to falsely elevate others, and is by no means meant as an opportunity to debate others opinions, it is simply a request for suggestions on which 5 prides we should start with. I will stop taking suggestions on May 25, 2022, which gives us 1 week to take suggestions, and parse the results.

Thanks!
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  Jungle Safari At Rajaji National Park
Posted by: rohitringola - 05-05-2022, 12:13 PM - Forum: Packages & Offers - Replies (2)
Rajaji Naztional Park Safari Booking
Wilderness Safaris in Rajaji Tiger Reserve is an awesome encounter, yet as well as it needs a bunches of tolerance for confronting the wild arrangements. We can arrive at there by transport it is possible for Dehradun and Haridwar from Delhi and Lucknow. During the Safari everybody can see numerous wild creatures like puma, bear Asian elephants, lord cobra, Spotted deer, Chital and Sambar. You can likewise appreciate many birds Species and various sorts of bushes and trees the biggest warm blooded creature elephant is additionally normal during nature safari. The natural life jeep safaris and elephant Rides are around 35 K.m. The hour of Wildlife Jeep Safari in Rajaji is between mid November and second seven day stretch of June consistently. There are such countless inns and traveler places around Rajaji National Park Safari Booking at Haridwar, Dehradun and Rishikesh which make it adequate visit of the recreation area.
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  Any feedback is welcome. Looking for improvement.
Posted by: SkepticSalmn - 05-01-2022, 03:19 AM - Forum: Prehistoric animals - No Replies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwWt-RZj...Salamander

Want some feedback on my science communication video. 

Tried to be as clear, concise, and factual as possible.

Always looking to improve.

Thank you.
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Information Any feedback is welcome. Looking for improvement.
Posted by: SkepticSalmn - 05-01-2022, 03:08 AM - Forum: Extinct Animals - No Replies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwWt-RZj...Salamander

Hi; I'm glad I encountered this forum and intend to pasticipate often. I am trying to improve my science communication channel on YouTube and am looking for feedback on how to make improvements. Compliments are also appreciated. 

On this video, I tried to be as clear as possible and make no errors. And I used a mic.

I dug deep into the research and made sure that my facts are solid as possible.

Anyway, thanks for your help.
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Sad Four sad stories of young lions
Posted by: Gabriele - 04-12-2022, 03:14 AM - Forum: Lion - Replies (2)
Which of these young lions impressed you the most?

Young Styx




Mini-pog




Shaka Junior




Sand River youngster son of Makulu
https://www.facebook.com/LionsOfSabiSandTheMapogos/photos/a.4048112501955786/4535560889877609/ 

*This image is copyright of its original author
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  I can't upload avatar image
Posted by: Gabriele - 04-08-2022, 06:54 PM - Forum: Suggestion, Feedback and Complaint - Replies (9)
Why does no image fit on my avatar? Is there a minimum number of messages or time since registration?
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Sad Avatar
Posted by: Gabriele - 04-02-2022, 01:05 AM - Forum: Tips, Guides, Tutorial & Technical Problem - Replies (1)
Hello, I can't upload an image to my avatar. I try following the procedure indicated, very simple, and I tried to insert an external link, but doesn't change. Why?
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  Jaguar vs Cougar claws
Posted by: drumiz - 03-22-2022, 08:25 PM - Forum: Terrestrial Wild Animals - No Replies
I am trying to differentiate between puma and jaguar claws, both species are native to Bolivia and their parts subject to illegal trafficking. I is not easy to tell them appart when found without any skin that helps identification.  I am including pictures of claws in their paws (sold as souvenirs) from museum's specimens, which suggest they overlap in size between species but puma dew claw (finger I in front paws) is quite larger than the rest (photos 1 & 2). That does not seem to be the case for jaguars, where in the paws we have, dew claw is smaller (photos 3 & 4).  This agrees with pictures of a jaguar skeleton in post #1,838 ('Troncha' from Onçafari). However, I could not identify the species of clean claws seized to traffic (photos 5 - 7), and I wonder if you know  any morphometric description or rules that would help with tell them appart.  Thanks.


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  Lions and tigers in the Mahabharata
Posted by: LandSeaLion - 03-04-2022, 02:35 PM - Forum: Miscellaneous - Replies (1)
There was an off-topic discussion going on in this thread about whether or not the Mahabharata mentions lions and tigers in conflict.

Obligatory note: I'm not an expert on this topic whatsoever (so if I've gotten anything wrong, please do correct me!). :) I am, however, an  absolutely massive nerd who is both curious about languages and has a tendency to waste time researching obscure things that are of no real importance whatsoever, so I went looking to see if I could find whether this line in the English translation by Romesh Chunder Dutt:

"Peerless bowman! Mighty monarch! Nations still his hests obeyed,
As a lion slays a tiger, Bhima hath Duryodhan slayed"

was in the "original Sanskrit."It's important to note that there exist various written interpretations of the Mahabharata. The most complete version in the public domain is this version, which was translated by Kisari Mohan Ganguli. This is the source I used to find the corresponding Sanskrit line. I already knew that "siṃhá" meant "lion," so looking for lines with the root "simh-" narrowed down the search for me. I found it on line 17 of this page:

 17 एष दुर्यॊधनः शेते महेष्वासॊ महारथः

     शार्दूल इव सिंहेन भीमसेनेन पातितः

 17 eṣa duryodhanaḥ śete maheṣvāso mahārathaḥ
     śārdūla iva siṃhena bhīmasenena pātitaḥ

Unfortunately Google does not offer a translation service for Sanskrit, but I can get a very amateurish translation by looking up each word individually.

eṣa = this/that
duryodhanaḥ = Duryodhan
śete = sleeps/lies down
maheṣvāso = great archer
mahārathaḥ = great warrior/hero/chariot-warrior ("car warrior")
śārdūla = tiger (this word can apparently refer to either a lion - "siṃhá" - or a tiger - "vyāghraḥ" - but given the reference to a lion by "simh-" in the same line, it's more likely to mean tiger here. Fun fact: it's been theorised that the Sanskrit word for tiger mentioned above is where the name for the drug Viagra comes from!)
iva = like/as if
siṃhena = by a lion (simha is the root word meaning "lion," and the na appended to it turns it into the instrumental form. See this page for more info)
bhīmasenena = by Bhima
patitah = was thrown/has fallen down

So basically my translation would be:

"That great archer and hero Duryodhan lies there, like a tiger by a lion, cast down by Bhimasena."

The English translation offered by the same site is: "Alas, there that great bowman and mighty car-warrior sleeps, slain by Bhimasena, like a tiger slain by a lion!"

So, that poem above by Dutt is actually reasonably similar to this  (although of course with a lot of flourishes and poetic license to make it rhyme). It's worth noting of course that this isn't a literal description of a lion fighting a tiger; in context, it's being used as a poetic metaphor for one mighty character killing another. Both lions and tigers were frequently used as metaphors for great people (like the expression "a tiger amongst men"). The other example posted in that thread from the Ramayana ("Let not Rama in his rancour shed a younger brother's blood, As the lion slays the tiger in the deep and echoing wood!") is used in exactly the same way. Perhaps this is why Romila Thapar said that there was no mention of lions and tigers in combat in the Mahabharata and Ramayana? Another possibility is that Thapar may not consider the Ganguli version of the Mahabharata to be the definitive one; there is apparently a version called "the Critical Edition" by the Bhandakar Oriental Research Institute. Perhaps it differs, and does not contain this metaphor? It isn't in the public domain though, so I can't compare.

Anyway, that's enough from me lol.
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