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Mangheni Pride
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 (03-01-2025, 03:13 PM)KM600 Wrote:(03-01-2025, 05:44 AM)FACR2212 Wrote:(02-28-2025, 05:57 PM)KM600 Wrote: This pride is just so unlucky. I actually agree with the comments about NK and Khanya most likely chasing the pride which led them into Sabi Sabi, purely down to the fact they haven't been following their normal route lately, which is them going east or south from western Sabi Sands heading to Sabi Sabi themselves or thru Londolozi and into MalaMala, sometimes even stopping in the north too. I don't think they would have sent the Monwanas that far out, I think that was more their own doing. I remember saying a while ago how I thought these boys had almost fooled themselves into believing all of the west was completely under PCM ruling, it was just after both NK and Khanya were roaring and scent marking in the middle of the west, despite Savanna at that point being pretty open for the taking and with them sticking in the west for the moment, maybe they've finally realised. I was excited hopefully seen cub number ten. It was hard without its mother. I was starting to wonder how long Mahangenie lioness were going to survive. They were fourteen? The young male lion hopefully remaining cubs can grow. Maybe young male lion could join some of the young cubs from Nestuvo pride or the younger cubs of Kambula pride. There are older sub adults but there is still one younger cubs. Wondering would anybody know the sex of the Nestuvo cubs? Is there only one male lion?  (03-01-2025, 03:13 PM)KM600 Wrote:(03-01-2025, 05:44 AM)FACR2212 Wrote:(02-28-2025, 05:57 PM)KM600 Wrote: This pride is just so unlucky. I actually agree with the comments about NK and Khanya most likely chasing the pride which led them into Sabi Sabi, purely down to the fact they haven't been following their normal route lately, which is them going east or south from western Sabi Sands heading to Sabi Sabi themselves or thru Londolozi and into MalaMala, sometimes even stopping in the north too. I don't think they would have sent the Monwanas that far out, I think that was more their own doing. I remember saying a while ago how I thought these boys had almost fooled themselves into believing all of the west was completely under PCM ruling, it was just after both NK and Khanya were roaring and scent marking in the middle of the west, despite Savanna at that point being pretty open for the taking and with them sticking in the west for the moment, maybe they've finally realised. You are right that their demise was overrall later than most of cubs. 80% mortality rate overall? Hence, 20% reach adulthood. Well, Manghenis are rasing 40% cubs up to 2 years old at the moment... not bad performance or so unlucky after all.  (03-01-2025, 04:37 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(03-01-2025, 03:29 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: That does not mean that usually 50 or 30% of each litter dies. But rather that one time all the cubs die while another times most of them make it. True but even then. Takeovers, leopard lionesses like Tsalala and such still would severely skew the statistic. Id say that in a pride in normal conditions and without takeovers and such, an 75% survival rate is more reasonable.
There are also litters we don't really consider in these x/10 views - hey sometimes we aren't even sure if there was litter, if the lioness was really pregnant, there might have been stillbirths or the whole litter might disappear at once from a densite (elephants, buffalos, predators,...). We really acknowledge only those they are brought out and we can determine how many there are and hopefully their sexes (but we never know, if there weren't more initially and some runt or sick/genetically flawed one didn't make it early on).
(03-06-2025, 12:00 AM)RookiePundit Wrote: There are also litters we don't really consider in these x/10 views - hey sometimes we aren't even sure if there was litter, if the lioness was really pregnant, there might have been stillbirths or the whole litter might disappear at once from a densite (elephants, buffalos, predators,...). We really acknowledge only those they are brought out and we can determine how many there are and hopefully their sexes (but we never know, if there weren't more initially and some runt or sick/genetically flawed one didn't make it early on). That's true, those who die as newborns or few weeks old are not in the counting.
A group of 5-6 females were seen in Savanna a few days ago. According to the numbers, they should be Manghenis back in western SS:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19NsfGep1h/ (03-18-2025, 02:48 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: A group of 5-6 females were seen in Savanna a few days ago. According to the numbers, they should be Manghenis back in western SS: Hi that does not sound good? Five to six? Three lionesses and four subadults. Wonder how they have been. (03-18-2025, 04:33 AM)Guillermo94 Wrote:(03-18-2025, 02:48 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: A group of 5-6 females were seen in Savanna a few days ago. According to the numbers, they should be Manghenis back in western SS: I don't know... I was pointing out the fact that it was a pride of at least 5 females/subadults.  (03-26-2025, 05:35 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: All 7 members of the Mangheni looking well Excellent! They seem to be very low profile the last weeks, probably after the incident where they lost some cubs/subs. (03-26-2025, 05:35 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: All 7 members of the Mangheni looking well Nice to finally see something on them. They and the daughter of Ridge Nose (Nkuhuma breakaway female) were near one another at some point recently (according to a recent post on said daughter) thankfully they didn't end up crossing paths. |
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