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(03-27-2025, 11:33 PM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(03-27-2025, 10:39 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: NEW sAFARI VIDEO


Matt comments on something I had seen in other sightings, and its that one of the younger cus seems to have a very dark orange coating...really stands out from the siblings.





Amazing moment with the cubs. If I'm not wrong, there are three males and two females. The two cubs with dark coat are males.
I think so too. And that's perfect imo, 3 females for the longevity of the pride and 2 males who can form a coalition in the future.

Really curious to know how these males will develop into subadults with the dark coats
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A Retrospetive Tribute to the Tintswalo Males




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Great footage of Red Road and Nharu pride in these slides. We also see RRM mating with a lioness with a collar around her neck, does anyone know which lioness that is? Doesn't look like one of the younger ones to me, so not the RR daughters (could be wrong though), nor the oldest (they have cubs), so the Thandi Imp offspring lioness remains (10yo)?

Also interesting that his son is not there.



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(Yesterday, 07:12 PM)MrLoesoe Wrote: Great footage of Red Road and Nharu pride in these slides. We also see RRM mating with a lioness with a collar around her neck, does anyone know which lioness that is? Doesn't look like one of the younger ones to me, so not the RR daughters (could be wrong though), nor the oldest (they have cubs), so the Thandi Imp offspring lioness remains (10yo)?

Also interesting that his son is not there.




In my opinion, the collared female is a young female, daughter of RRM already around 5 years old.

The Thanda Imp daughter and the remaining Birmingham female are the mothers of the 5 cubs usually seen together. Here a picture of them, both lionesses full black nose (that means 8+ years old). Thanda Imp female is 8-9 years old and Birmingham female is 14 years old.

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(Yesterday, 08:32 PM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 07:12 PM)MrLoesoe Wrote: Great footage of Red Road and Nharu pride in these slides. We also see RRM mating with a lioness with a collar around her neck, does anyone know which lioness that is? Doesn't look like one of the younger ones to me, so not the RR daughters (could be wrong though), nor the oldest (they have cubs), so the Thandi Imp offspring lioness remains (10yo)?

Also interesting that his son is not there.




In my opinion, the collared female is a young female, daughter of RRM already around 5 years old.

The Thanda Imp daughter and the remaining Birmingham female are the mothers of the 5 cubs usually seen together. Here a picture of them, both lionesses full black nose (that means 8+ years old). Thanda Imp female is 8-9 years old and Birmingham female is 14 years old).

Thanks! Makes sense. Well then this confirms that RR is mating with his daughters. (I think you earlier said that the single cub may also be of other daughter.) 

Not surprising given the length of his reign over the pride.... but not desired from a genetic point of view. The pride needs new males, just like the Mbiri pride has needed them for a long time (they may have them now finally, we don't know yet, no good updates on the Mbiris for a while). Timing wise now is a very bad time for the cubs though. And like I said earlier on SS thread I don't see other males defeating RR and Nharus so easily atm
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