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Lions of Sabi Sands
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  (05-01-2023, 07:20 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: I saw a report on the internets that said the S8 Male had a run in with the Black Dam Males. Does anybody have confirmation on that? it didn't imply that either had been too roughed up. There’s still some confusion as to who exactly S8 encountered. Deon said he was sen chasing Mohawk towards the west and also in pursuit and responding to roars from BDYMs. Found w blood around his mouth but no definitive conclusion as to whose blood it was. Even Nkuhuma Male was mentioned as being chased…..it’s outside his roaming area so it could have been Khanya or mis ID make
Deon’s report regarding events from past 12hrs
“The S8 male this morning on little Gowrie. Which is rather far south from where we normally see him. The dynamics of these males are rather upside down. Avoca male is getting chased around by the Black dam males. S8 Male had an altercation with them last night . Blood is visible around his mouth. This morning, he was courting one Nkuhuma females. Which was previously mating with the more dominant Black Dam male. Let's see what we have in store for the coming months. It's surely going to get interesting.  (05-01-2023, 08:30 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Deon’s report regarding events from past 12hrs Looks like S8 won another battle against BDM's, or prob only 1 BDM from who he stole his NK girlfriend. But he needs to be careful, he is outnumbered. And this is not his territory, he pushed further south, prob caught scent from NK female in estrus.
Footage of S8 during one of his ‘pursuits’ of rivals
“S8 male on the Rampage S8 was trailing the last Avoca male who was with the Nkuhuma sub males. He chased and split them up, eventually finding Avoca and 1 of the males on the EP airstrip. They ran and S8 gave chase - the hunt was on. S8 was on the rampage for a few hours but Avoca and young Nkuhuma got away. The confidence and aggression of S8 reminds me of the Mapogo boys - he is relentless and on a mission - what a lion he is!! ? Credits: melc_in_the_wild Ig” 
Attempt of expanding south will probably end up ugly for S8 male. As a loner he stand no chance against 2 healty males in their prime, no matter what powerhouse he is. Hopefully he he won't share fate of Othawa male, through he seems to be going same path.
(05-01-2023, 09:47 PM)Potato Wrote: Attempt of expanding south will probably end up ugly for S8 male. As a loner he stand no chance against 2 healty males in their prime, no matter what powerhouse he is. Hopefully he he won't share fate of Othawa male, through he seems to be going same path. He is over 10 yrs old male, so i dont think he has anything "worth" saving himself for at this point, as he is not getting younger. He is going for opportunities while he still has the power. We could say : "but he has cubs in Talamati pride to protect".. yea, but males dont think like that, they wont stop expanding and seeking mating opportunities because they have cubs in former pride. I mean, whats the point for him at this age to stay low, hang with Talamatis, eventually become old and weak, get ousted, become nomadic and get eaten by hyenas.. Or to try seek opportunities while he can, regardless if he gets killed. Definetly the latter.
People were pointing at Ndhzengas (even Birminghams before) how they look small compared to Kambulas, but even orange eyed BDM doesnt look any bigger:
 *This image is copyright of its original author This girls are just big, especially this K6/infertile/pale female. (05-01-2023, 10:31 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(05-01-2023, 08:51 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: He chased and split them up, eventually finding Avoca and 1 of the males on the EP airstrip. I am not sure if that was ever confirmed. I think we all wanted to believe it was Blonde Talamati, but nobody ever said it was for certain. I thought Blonde was back with his brother myself. So confusing. hahaha 
@Tr1x24 This BDM is definitely bigger than at least the smaller Ndhzenga but still he isn't a big male, he's probably average, which is a bit surprising since his uncle was so huge.
Maybe not in height but the PCM for instance would definitely look much bigger in the place of this guy and Londolozi did say they look big close to the Kambula's mothers and sisters which they said were of decent size themselves. Regardless it's true Kambulas are big, this one in particular is huge, I wonder if she's bigger than Talamatis and Nkuhumas who are known to have big lionesses.
@Mapokser im just saying that size can be tricky to judge when we compare males to females, as some females are bigger then others.
So you can have a situation where you see X male with small female from one pride, so he is bigger then her, and then you see Y male with big female from another pride, who are around the same size. We then immidiatley conclude, because of size difference compared to these females, that X male is bigger then Y, when in realiy those 2 females are much different in size. I remember few years ago, when current Tsalala princes was just a cub, encounter of her mother, Tsalala queen and 1 of Kambula females (not sure if it was this K6 female) and Nhenha was there aswell, that Kambula female was much bigger in size then Tsalala. Not sure how Nkuhumas, Talamatis and others would stack, but some of Kambulas, with their mothers from Mhangeni pride and young Tinya, look quite big. So obiviously, when you see certain males with those big females, they dont look that big. (05-01-2023, 10:58 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote:(05-01-2023, 10:31 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(05-01-2023, 08:51 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: He chased and split them up, eventually finding Avoca and 1 of the males on the EP airstrip. The Blonde Talamati was definitely w Mohawk yesterday,,,,see post in the Talamati thread. I do believe the ‘son’ referenced in the report is most likely him. Since the 4 Nkuhuma YMs are together separately (05-01-2023, 11:52 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:Yeah, that thread said it was Kambula and not Talamati. Am I missing something?(05-01-2023, 10:58 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote:(05-01-2023, 10:31 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(05-01-2023, 08:51 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: He chased and split them up, eventually finding Avoca and 1 of the males on the EP airstrip. |
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