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Lions of Sabi Sands
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 (04-12-2023, 05:44 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote:(04-12-2023, 05:16 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: 1/2 BDYMS found mating w one Nkuhuma lioness. I believe it’s Chela. Are you asking if she’s Mohawk’s daughter? No, she’s a Matimba offspring. Chela is the lioness that usually is caretaking the older sub adults which include her son. Yes, I think this is the ‘beginnings’ of a take over. The BDYMs has steadily been gaining confidence and have begun to seek out mating opportunities. The best thing is for chela and the two AE daughters to remain separate and attract the new males. To give Mohawk and the younger subadults time. This of course is best case scenario. Things don’t always play out this way.  (04-12-2023, 05:54 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(04-12-2023, 05:44 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote:(04-12-2023, 05:16 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: 1/2 BDYMS found mating w one Nkuhuma lioness. I believe it’s Chela. I was actually asking if this was previously a lionness with Mohawk. I think you answered that one.  
Summary about Talamati cubs, Kambulas, Ottawas, Mohawk with subadults, princess Tsalala.
Throwback, Fourways males DM Jr. and Blondie, at Umkumbe in early 2015 :
 (04-16-2023, 09:10 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: S8/Imbali male. According to Tendai Moyo, S8 was in Mohawk's territory yesterday. He was seen north of Arathusa's lodge. Does Mohawk has a territory anymore? He is avoiding BDM's for months now, and i didnt see any videos of him roaring, patroling or scent marking. He kinda behaves semi nomadic for a while now, hanging in his "territory" but not actually having authority over it. Also, north of Arathusa and EP, Simbambili area and western Djuma , is S8 territory for a while now, Mohawk was more south, which he now avoids because of BDM's 
I don't think its as black and white for lions as it is all about dominating a pride rather than the land. Roaring or scent marking are just tools to deter rivals to prevent a more serious fight.
He is still in control of the pride. But that he stopped roaring etc shows that he no longer believes that deterrence is enough to keep rivals at bay. Nor that he feels confident enough in his chances to win a fight. So I think he is now just trying to ride it out and hoping an actual takeover never happens. Sacrificing land for more time with the pride. Regardless. It is a sign he is on the way out. Either a takeover happens or the pride itself will shift their attention to the stronger males once its time to start the next generation.
@Duco Ndona is he controling the pride or he just hangs with them? Thats 2 very different things.
This is not how it works, male who just hangs with the pride, without controling territory is not a territorial/dominant male. DM hanged with Talamatis, Tumbela hangs with both Othawas and Ximhungwes, NK with Ximhungwes, but neither of those males where/are territorial. To be a dominant/territorial male you need to have territory, not a pride, because without territory, you and your pride are in someones elses males territory. And to have a territory, you need to roar, scent mark, face and chase intruders to keep them away, which Mohawk is not doing.
As we suspected, Omega sort of confirms what we suspected about Gingerella’s cubs
(04-16-2023, 06:15 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(04-16-2023, 05:43 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: As we suspected, Omega sort of confirms what we suspected about Gingerella’s cubs These same guides stated multiple times seeing them ´heavily pregnant´ So not sure if it was speculation. Both lionesses are under stress. The PCMs, Tumbela and Nkuhuma all hanging around week to week a different male. It’s untenable situation to rear cubs |
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