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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage
Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage
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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage
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 (09-19-2024, 07:34 PM)Potato Wrote:(09-19-2024, 07:02 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: they were even seen doing the mounting male to male ritualthat was with Kruger male, not Mohawk no? sorry, i totally misunderstood the Q. Yes, that was KM and S Avoca. so to answer the question correctly, they were not very far from each other on that day....but since, the KM/S Avoca duo have moved to northern MalaMala.  (09-19-2024, 11:24 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(09-19-2024, 07:34 PM)Potato Wrote:(09-19-2024, 07:02 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: they were even seen doing the mounting male to male ritualthat was with Kruger male, not Mohawk no? Meanwhile Khanya and NK were last spotted going in MalaMala too, seems these boys might be having one big party we’re all unfamiliar with. 
1/2 Nkuhuma males at Kruger
 *This image is copyright of its original author by kate
 (09-27-2024, 07:24 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: I replied on this thread asking if this is Mohawk, and then just mildly said how it's interesting that we've been calling him Mohawk for years, and got a totally snotty answer back that this is the Northern Avoca Male and Mohawk is not an official name, so ... Just seen that, Mohawk is 100% his official name. The only time u won’t ever see him referred to by his name is when he’s mentioned in reports and then he’s the ‘Northern Avoca Male’ and it’s like that with every male in reports. I think that guy needs to change his bio.. Side note, I hope we find out how recent that video is as LionLovers claims he went back to Rhino Post in KNP, prolly looking for his sons. (09-27-2024, 07:39 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:(09-27-2024, 07:24 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: I replied on this thread asking if this is Mohawk, and then just mildly said how it's interesting that we've been calling him Mohawk for years, and got a totally snotty answer back that this is the Northern Avoca Male and Mohawk is not an official name, so ... The strange thing about NK is that his pride name has atp become his actual name too. For example, with the Avoca male offspring that was born into Nkuhuma Pride, we refer to them as Nkuhuma boys or the Nkuhuma males, whereas we refer to him as just ‘Nkuhuma Male’ (or any other abbreviation) and everyone straight away knows exactly the male we’re speaking about. I actually didn’t know that about the meaning of nym and I’m not sure many other ppl used that term for that meaning either, nevertheless I think it’s a cool concept. I agree with the Talamati boys names too, they’re the best names I’ve come across since following lions. 
Some reserves use names, others don't.
For the northern lodges, he is the Northern Avoca Male Mohawk, for MalaMala and the rest of the Sabi Sands he'll just be the Northern Avoca Male. (09-27-2024, 07:39 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote: There’s someone who gets mad that Nym is now named Nym even tho he’s not Nkuhuma young male anymore.Im guessing i could be one of the said "mad" about the name since i usually point out how pointless that nickname is. Idk but personally never got mad about such thing. anyways im almost sure "nym" stands for "Nkuhuma young male" for most people. That whole meaning you came up with i personally never heard about it before even thought its better than young male (i could be wrong and that could be exactly the meaning of the nickname and thats what people mean when they call him like that, but as i say i personally havent heard of it before). As usually its great to point out how pointless it is for him to be called "Nkuhuma young male" (if thats the case). He is closer to being a old male than a young, just because he is nomadic and people associate it with young lifestyle, which is not his case anymore even thought still a nomad  (09-27-2024, 10:34 PM)Ngonya Wrote:(09-27-2024, 07:39 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote: There’s someone who gets mad that Nym is now named Nym even tho he’s not Nkuhuma young male anymore.Im guessing i could be one of the said "mad" about the name since i usually point out how pointless that nickname is. Idk but personally never got mad about such thing. I think that most people still refer to him as NYM, as others will know immediately who we are talking about. He does not have an official name, and if you just say Nkuhuma, others are going to immediately ask which one, given there are several Nkuhuma males around. Nym allows people to know, right off, who we are talking about. He has never had any different name, it has been used for years, and has simply stuck.  (09-28-2024, 12:40 AM)BA0701 Wrote:(09-27-2024, 10:34 PM)Ngonya Wrote:(09-27-2024, 07:39 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote: There’s someone who gets mad that Nym is now named Nym even tho he’s not Nkuhuma young male anymore.Im guessing i could be one of the said "mad" about the name since i usually point out how pointless that nickname is. Idk but personally never got mad about such thing. Is it wrong to call him Mfumo Jr? I've seen this name being used many times, and I tend to use it when I want to be specific about wich Nkuhuma Im talking 
Mfumo jr I used to refer to him as that privately but he kinda looks like nsuku a bit but
Nkuhuma males 2 older son of avoca males Nkuhuma male 2016 son of Birminghams Nkuhuma young male 2021 youngest son of avocas I think we’ll probably have to add something to the end of all 3 from now on like 2016 Nkuhuma male from now on to avoid confusion from others (09-28-2024, 12:40 AM)BA0701 Wrote: He has never had any different name, it has been used for years, and has simply stuck.As you say it has been used for years and tbf even a couple of years ago it could make sense for his age If that helps people to differentiate who is being talked about, great i guess. But that doesn't make the name anymore meaningful, you could just say "[...] Nk BBoy son [...]" or whatever, there is no other Nkuhuma male sired by BBoys so yeah thats way more characteristic than "nym", even something about his eye would sound better (my opinion ofc!). Not big of a deal to mention/contextualize which lion is being talked about, so far its factual the use of this name is more about people's attachment to it than actual relevance to ID. And i said plenty of times and yeah the name is pointless for me and i stand still for that. If you guys like to use it thats fine obviously, i point it out sometimes for bare personal confusion since any of the Nkuhumas could be called nym nowdays except for him, who isn't much near being young anymore.
1/2 Nkuhuma males at KNP, this is the blonder maned male. They are both looking quite impressive, anyone knows what area Themba roams so we can have an idea where the boys are?
 *This image is copyright of its original author by Edward Themba
 (09-27-2024, 07:39 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:(09-27-2024, 07:24 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: I replied on this thread asking if this is Mohawk, and then just mildly said how it's interesting that we've been calling him Mohawk for years, and got a totally snotty answer back that this is the Northern Avoca Male and Mohawk is not an official name, so ... I'm not sure how the fact that 'Nym' is Greek for name means anything in this regard. It is hardly his official name, and I agree with @Ngonya that it's weird to refer to him by the acronym that originally meant 'Nkuhuma Young Male' when he's not anymore, and there are three Nkuhuma males that are younger than him. The boy currently still with the pride is the most fitting for the title NYM. Mohawk is different, as the WildEarth crew always called him that. But no one, aside from a couple of people on here, refer to the Nkuhuma male as 'Nym'. So he's a lion named 'name'? Sorry but that doesn't make any sense. |
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