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Measuring and weighing tigers in India

India sanjay Offline
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( This post was last modified: 12-09-2015, 01:09 PM by sanjay )

In this thread we will share images, videos and information regarding how measuring and weighing of tigers are done by different organization, biologist, scientist and forest department across India.

I will start by posting this recent image I saw on fb.

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The above image is of Ranthambore national park, India where a group of biologist and forest department are taking measurements of tiger. The id of tiger is unknown and there is no further information related to this image.

Please post your finding here
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Indonesia phatio Offline
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(12-09-2015, 01:05 PM)sanjay Wrote:
*This image is copyright of its original author


The above image is of Ranthambore national park, India where a group of biologist and forest department are taking measurements of tiger. The id of tiger is unknown and there is no further information related to this image.


He is the famous T-24 Ustad, no doubt about it. 

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( This post was last modified: 12-09-2015, 10:51 PM by GuateGojira )

Wow, what a great eye @phatio, you have a good perception. Joking 

So, they do measured Ustad, the problem is which are its measurements, are they going to publish them?
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I have heard recently that when ustad was about to move in sajjangarh biological park, his weight was over 215 Kg and when he was weight again after he fall sick and vets gave him treatment his weight was below 200 kg
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( This post was last modified: 12-09-2015, 11:53 PM by Pckts )

Ustaad is very sick, he hasn't been eating and has actually been sick since he was brought to the zoo. Obviously the amount of stress he went through is too much.
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/i...npur-park/

Anybody here I'm sure can attest to the fact that stress can truly destroy your health, imagine the stress put on you when you're abducted and thrown in a cage. It's not like he knows what "laws" are or a "prison"
Its no surprise that a cat that obviously has touchy health issues to begin with isn't handling its capture and imprisonment well.

A side note, where did you see that Ustad has been weighed again @sanjay?
I haven't been able to see anything on that.
Thanks

Edit: here it is

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( This post was last modified: 12-10-2015, 12:15 AM by sanjay )

Hey @Pckts this is the news article published on 7 dec 2015 (or may be one day earlier)
Any one who knows Hindi (Indian Language) can understand it very clearly. I have highlighted the parts where it says that ustaad weight is less than 200 kg as of now and it was more than 215 kg when he was brought here. Hope this help

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Another image when ustaad was weight

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( This post was last modified: 12-10-2015, 12:21 AM by Pckts )

Great stuff, thanks Sanjay.
Poor guy, I hope he can make it through this, but at this point, who knows.

Would you mind posting the link to the FB page?
I'd love to check them out.
Thanks again
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India sanjay Offline
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Here you go pckts https://www.facebook.com/helpT24
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( This post was last modified: 12-10-2015, 12:46 AM by Pckts )

(12-10-2015, 12:33 AM)sanjay Wrote: Here you go pckts https://www.facebook.com/helpT24

Wow, thanks sanjay.

You know what the worst thing is, they say that he weighed over 215kg but they don't give an exact number, correct? We know he weighed 240kg when 3.5 and said to be 250kg when originally captured, so it really could be quite a bit of weight lost, and the 15kg estimate could be used to make it seem not as bad, but its obviously very drastic.

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This picture made me soo sad!

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Horrible to see....
Sorry to derail, thats the end of it.
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India sanjay Offline
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You can continue here http://wildfact.com/forum/topic-male-tig...anthambore
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Canada Dr Panthera Offline
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I hope he makes a quick recovery, his poor health, weakness, and loss of form highlights the problems that big cats face everywhere.
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Its actually not unusual for a big cat to began to loose weight as they age. I know it happens to lions, where after the age of 7 they began to loose condition, and i`ve seen it happen with tigers from the STP. It may be a combination of receiving less food and the hardships of old age.
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( This post was last modified: 12-10-2015, 08:57 PM by Pckts )

this isn't a natural weight loss and there is no prior example you can use towards this. The fact that he was removed from the Wild into an enclosure is unprecedented and the fact that he is loosing mass on top of the fact that he isn't eating and had underwent surgery all are not related to any example you can bring up in the wild.
Of course animals deteriorate with age but a healthy adult male doesn't drop from 250kg to 200kg or less in a year with out being sick or injured.
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(12-10-2015, 08:54 PM)Pckts Wrote: this isn't a natural weight loss and there is no prior example you can use towards this. The fact that he was removed from the Wild into an enclosure is unprecedented and the fact that he is loosing mass on top of the fact that he isn't eating and had underwent surgery all are not related to any example you can bring up in the wild.
Of course animals deteriorate with age but a healthy adult male doesn't drop from 250kg to 200kg or less in a year with out being sick or injured.

Sorry for the late reply (been busy), but i do have prior examples, some from the STP, where some tigers have lost weight after a certain age.  It could possibly be from an injury, which is natural. Injury, ineptitude at hunting at a certain age and weight, etc. Remember that as a cat increases in weight and/or age, his speed decreases.  A slight decrease in speed could make all the difference, as most prey is already faster.
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( This post was last modified: 12-29-2015, 09:06 PM by Pckts )

Show me the STP report where a healthy male dropped 40kgs in a 3 month time frame?

It's never happened unless said animal is injured or sick. And I still see no point here that goes against what is already been said and shown for Ustad.
He was healthy, breeding and hunting, captured at 250kg, then forced to be caged, wouldn't eat and had surgery again.
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