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Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers

Guatemala GuateGojira Offline
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Actually, there was a radiocollared male that weighed 200 kg in Thailand. I still have a picture of this animal, it was many years ago (2003 or 2004), but sadly in those days, I did not take screenshoots nor save links. Now, the page no longer exists and I have not found an email or something to corroborate that weight. Still, I am very sure about the weight of that male and also a female of 120 kg, both from Thailand.
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Hi all.

I found a picture of the body of the 303 kg tiger from Vietnam. The parts which where found weighed 668 pounds, this appears to not include the internal organs.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...icine.html
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It could be a giant Indochinese tiger, since giant individuals exist among all tiger subspecies.
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Minh Ha
Neelam, collared female at Foota Taal, March 2014. Photo by Satyendra Tiwaris. She was collared in Jan 2014 at 2 yrs old and weighed around 130kg

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I just received the book
"bones of the tiger" Protecting the Man-Eaters of Nepal

In the book they speak about a couple of weights I have seen, one tiger "over 400lbs and another around 450lbs"
They also show a picture of how they measure and collar the cats.
On their side with a cloth tape.
I haven't gotten a chance to read it yet, just skimmed it.




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Hi pckts, I believe these are the tigers mentioned by Sunquist and Dave Smith in the 80's
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I believe they are part of the smithsonian project?
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I think already present in the GuateGojira tables.

A SURPRISE VISIT
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admin_knikolaeva posted on February 16, 2010 00:04

On February 9th 2010, the head of Primorsky Krai’s Hunting Control Department notified us of a tiger sighted on a hunting lease near Alekseevka, a village of the Nadezhdinsky district in Primorski Krai. The animal was behaving oddly - most wild tigers, when confronted with people, will either run away, or if cornered, exhibit aggression. But this animal neither ran away or towards people, as if people long ago failed to interest him. As a WCS employee with extensive capture experience, I was asked to assist by immobilizing and examining this strange tiger.
 
Around noon, together with representatives from Primorsky Krai’s Hunting Control Department, Special Tiger Inspection and WWF Russia, I arrived at the base of the hunting lease. The previous day, the tiger had killed and eaten two dogs. Now, apparently satiated, he was leisurely strolling around between the houses and cars parked nearby. He seemed completely calm, and showed no reaction to people, but appeared very interested in cars. He followed them, smelled them, and rubbed his cheeks on their bumpers. Our goal was to anesthetize him, conduct a basic examination, collect basic blood samples for disease analyses, weigh him, measure him, and transfer him to a facility for subsequent holding and observation.
 
I got out the syringe with the anesthetic, loaded the gun, and readied for work.  Unlike nearly all other tiger immobilizations I have been involved in, when your pulse is running high and your nerves are tingling as you approach one of the largest, most dangerous carnivores in the world, immobilizing this tiger was more like darting the family pussycat. As he walked along a road, following a slowly moving truck, we simply eased up behind him in a second vehicle with a sunroof, from which I made the shot. Unlike most tigers, who normally whirl in anger with impressive growls upon getting darted with a needle, this tiger was amazingly calm: he didn’t charge in our direction, didn’t roar, but merely hopped up twice, like a rabbit. After a few minutes, the tranquilizer took effect, and he slowly fell asleep.  We carried him into a small holding area and began the examination. The tiger turned out to be a young male (3-4 years old), in good physical condition, weighing 156 kg, and with an 11 cm front pad width.  From this brief examination, we came up with no clues as to why this “king of the forest” was acting like a domestic house cat.
 
We know from previous cases that tigers with distemper can appear oblivious to their surroundings, and in the earlier stages of the disease, can walk around villages and highways seemingly completely at ease amidst their human surroundings. But unlike most of these cases, this tiger as yet showed no signs of dysfunction of the central nervous system: it was not like he was unaware of his surroundings, but rather that he was completely at ease with them, as if he had been reared in captivity and was completely accustomed to such surroundings.
 
What caused the atypical behavior of this Siberian tiger? What possible illness might he have? What made him approach people in the first place? Could he have been reared in captivity? All of these questions will have to be answered by specialists looking at the results of his analyses, and over the course of a long-term observation.

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Tiger which terrorised people around Ghunghuti range caught
PTI
November 22, 2016 | UPDATED 00:00 IST

Bhopal, Nov 21 (PTI) A tiger with a trident-like mark which had created panic in Ghunghuti forest range has been caught and put in an enclosure at Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve (BTR) in Umaria district.

"Our officials captured the animal yesterday from Ghunghuti range," Principal Chief Conservator of Forests (Wildlife) Jitendra Agrawal told PTI.

The tiger, weighing around 280 kg, was today put in Beherha enclosure of BTR, he added.

People living in Ghunghuti range blamed the tiger, identified by a trident-like mark, for six-seven deaths in the area in the last two years, Agrawal said.

It was possible that some other wild animal might have killed these persons, he added.

A month ago, one person was killed, and people again suspected that this tiger was responsible.

"So we had put up 32 cameras and deployed men on elephants to catch it. Finally we caught the tiger yesterday," Agrawal added. PTI LAL MAS KRK AAR JMF

Different journal, same article: Tiger which terrorised people around Ghunghuti range caught
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(12-02-2016, 02:35 AM)Ngala Wrote: Tiger which terrorised people around Ghunghuti range caught
PTI
November 22, 2016 | UPDATED 00:00 IST

Bhopal, Nov 21 (PTI) A tiger with a trident-like mark which had created panic in Ghunghuti forest range has been caught and put in an enclosure at Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve (BTR) in Umaria district.

"Our officials captured the animal yesterday from Ghunghuti range," Principal Chief Conservator of Forests (Wildlife) Jitendra Agrawal told PTI.

The tiger, weighing around 280 kg, was today put in Beherha enclosure of BTR, he added.

People living in Ghunghuti range blamed the tiger, identified by a trident-like mark, for six-seven deaths in the area in the last two years, Agrawal said.

It was possible that some other wild animal might have killed these persons, he added.

A month ago, one person was killed, and people again suspected that this tiger was responsible.

"So we had put up 32 cameras and deployed men on elephants to catch it. Finally we caught the tiger yesterday," Agrawal added. PTI LAL MAS KRK AAR JMF

Different journal, same article: Tiger which terrorised people around Ghunghuti range caught
Wow... I wish we could see this male, I'll try getting a little more info on him.
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(12-02-2016, 02:35 AM)Ngala Wrote: Tiger which terrorised people around Ghunghuti range caught
PTI
November 22, 2016 | UPDATED 00:00 IST

Bhopal, Nov 21 (PTI) A tiger with a trident-like mark which had created panic in Ghunghuti forest range has been caught and put in an enclosure at Bandhavgarh Tiger Reserve (BTR) in Umaria district.

"Our officials captured the animal yesterday from Ghunghuti range," Principal Chief Conservator of Forests (Wildlife) Jitendra Agrawal told PTI.

The tiger, weighing around 280 kg, was today put in Beherha enclosure of BTR, he added.

People living in Ghunghuti range blamed the tiger, identified by a trident-like mark, for six-seven deaths in the area in the last two years, Agrawal said.

It was possible that some other wild animal might have killed these persons, he added.

A month ago, one person was killed, and people again suspected that this tiger was responsible.

"So we had put up 32 cameras and deployed men on elephants to catch it. Finally we caught the tiger yesterday," Agrawal added. PTI LAL MAS KRK AAR JMF

Different journal, same article: Tiger which terrorised people around Ghunghuti range caught

Great find Ngala!

If this is in fact a weighing, this makes this the largest tiger ever weighed in modern records! After a large number of big weights in modern reports we have found, I am now convinced that Bengal tigers average about 500 lbs (225 kg) in modern time. Oddly, for some reason, in historical records, the average is closer to 200 kg. Why is that you may ask? It could be because many specimens in historical records were incorrectly labelled adults, it could even be reasons that I have noted in past threads. Another reason could be that all the big tigers in India today have outcompeted all the smaller males and only the big males are breeding, for example, T-3 weighing 240 kg, is the father of all the tigers in Panna, and as a result, the offspring will inherit his size. The opposite appears to have happened with the Siberian population, which is more heavily inbred.

In populations, genetic change is more likely to occur in small populations, and because the tiger population is so small, that may explain why both Indian tiger and Siberian tigers have apparently changed so much. Siberian tigers averaged 475 lbs historically, and are now about 400-420 lb. The opposite is the case for Indians, which have over twice the population size. The average for historical Bengals is 440 lbs, and today it appears to be around 500 lb.

The likely reason is the phenomenon known as genetic drift...

http://anthro.palomar.edu/synthetic/synth_5.htm
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A lot of interesting sources and weights here, great job everyone. With that, a lot of further verification is in order as well. @Vijay Rajan , would you happen to have any further information on the allegedly 280 kg maneater?
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(12-02-2016, 10:04 AM)Kingtheropod Wrote: If this is in fact a weighing, this makes this the largest tiger ever weighed in modern records! After a large number of big weights in modern reports we have found, I am now convinced that Bengal tigers average about 500 lbs (225 kg) in modern time. Oddly, for some reason, in historical records, the average is closer to 200 kg. Why is that you may ask? It could be because many specimens in historical records were incorrectly labelled adults, it could even be reasons that I have noted in past threads. Another reason could be that all the big tigers in India today have outcompeted all the smaller males and only the big males are breeding, for example, T-3 weighing 240 kg, is the father of all the tigers in Panna, and as a result, the offspring will inherit his size. The opposite appears to have happened with the Siberian population, which is more heavily inbred.

In populations, genetic change is more likely to occur in small populations, and because the tiger population is so small, that may explain why both Indian tiger and Siberian tigers have apparently changed so much. Siberian tigers averaged 475 lbs historically, and are now about 400-420 lb. The opposite is the case for Indians, which have over twice the population size. The average for historical Bengals is 440 lbs, and today it appears to be around 500 lb.


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Probability 1.That is the problem with naming the Cat/Tiger. See Sunder-ban tigers range in the above picture


Province   : Bengal (Today's West Bengal (One state in India)+ BANGLA-desh)
Language : Bengali
Ethnicity   : Bengali 

'Bengal' name assigned to the Tiger which lived entire India unlike Indian rhinoceros,Indian Leopard,Indian civet etc.

Why so??

So,Who is real Bengal tiger? 

Real 'Bengal province tiger' is Sunderban mangrove Tigers.They are small (Avg 110 kg),dangerous and notorious man-eaters.If 2 Sunderban tigers are included in 10 Indian Tigers weights the entire average weight decreased to 20 kg minimum.

2.May be HISTORICALLY Russian hunters lied. I saw many sites claimed historical Siberian tiger average weight was 400 Kg,but from 1980 on wards the maximum weight of Siberian Tiger by modern scientific measurement is 204 kg only.  Funny 
 
Nd almost all Indian tiger reserves in different regions measured minimum 240 kg tiger at-least once in the recent times. 

IF theory is PROVEN fake change the entire narrative .... Siberian are inbreed,all BIG tigers are hunted,they lack prey,their population decreased and what not.
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10 year old male tiger from Wayanad weighing over 200 kg. The tiger was a man-eater and later shot dead by officials. Sadly, they are not specific about the weight.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news...647673.cms
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200 kilogram, 17 year old Malaysian tiger. 

A tiger has been rescued from a trap set for wildboars in a plantation at Tapah.
The 17-year-old animal weighing about 200kg was injured in the legs, according to Tapah Police chief ASP Noor Shahariman Ngah.


He said an Orang Asli man, Waslostri Usop, 38, had set the trap to catch wild boars in Ladang Eden, Batu 10, Jalan Pahang.
At about 4.30pm yesterday, Waslostri lodged a police report on the trapped tiger, he said.
Noor Shahariman said a team of 25 people from the police, the Perak department of Wildlife and national parks and the national wildlife rescue centre in Sungkai rescued the tiger.
As the team could not fire tranquilliser darts at that time, it resumed the operation at 8am today and rescued the animal after firing eight darts, he said.
The tiger was brought to the National Wildlife Rescue Centre and the Sungkai Wildlife Conservation Centre for treatment, he added.
The is the second incident involving a tiger in the country in about a fortnight.
On Feb 5, a pregnant tigress was killed after being hit by a vehicle as it crossed the East Coast Expressway 2 in Pahang.
It is believed that there are only about 300 tigers left in the wild in Malaysia

http://malaysiakini.com/news/330479

What a beast
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