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(08-19-2024, 11:27 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: These guys are legends, i am suprised how we didnt really talked about them more as one of strongest and most impressive duos in recent years.
I agree. But it’s because we just do t get great coverage of them and that area.
(08-20-2024, 07:41 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Mbiri and Birmingham pride feeding:
Interestingly, ZigZag seems to be hanging out with the Birminghams more than Shaka. I assume Shaka is doing more patrolling or simply likes to stay on the boundaries of the pride (?). Both males were recently filmed together in the North of Manyeleti, in a Tintswalo video, and Shaka looked in great condition (just like ZigZag, much better than a few months ago).
(08-19-2024, 10:18 PM)adamstocks16 Wrote: How old are Hosi & Socha now?
They are unrelated males,
Hosi is unknown male, prob came from Kruger.
Socha is from Balule (Impalabos pride).
They become territorial in Klaserie in early 2019, taking over Klaserie River Pride and ousting young Nharhu males from their natal pride.
So they are definetly older then Nharhus, who are born in (late?) 2014.
This is them in late 2019:
Hosi
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Socha
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They are prob around 11 now (my guess).
These guys are legends, i am suprised how we didnt really talked about them more as one of strongest and most impressive duos in recent years.
Yeah from those photos I would say Hosi around 5/5.5 and Socha maybe slightly older around 6 although maybe he just had better mane development. In any case they have definitely been one of the most successful duos around in recent years, just not talked about as much as Mbiris or Ross due to less info and updates from that area.
Birmingham young male referred to as 'Nephew' with a young lioness from the Birmingham breakaway pride. They were seen mating several days after this. These two are related to some degree aren't they? I know she's the daughter of the Ross males, but his lineage isn't what I'm clear on.
(08-24-2024, 10:17 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Birmingham young male referred to as 'Nephew' with a young lioness from the Birmingham breakaway pride. They were seen mating several days after this. These two are related to some degree aren't they? I know she's the daughter of the Ross males, but his lineage isn't what I'm clear on.
If I'm not mistaken, he's called "Nephew" because he is BYM's sister's son. If so, then he would also be the progeny of the Ross Males, as well.
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(08-25-2024, 02:41 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(08-24-2024, 10:17 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Birmingham young male referred to as 'Nephew' with a young lioness from the Birmingham breakaway pride. They were seen mating several days after this. These two are related to some degree aren't they? I know she's the daughter of the Ross males, but his lineage isn't what I'm clear on.
If I'm not mistaken, he's called "Nephew" because he is BYM's sister's son. If so, then he would also be the progeny of the Ross Males, as well.
Correct on all counts. ‘nephew’ of Osindile. Sired by The Ross So he’s half-brother to this Birmingham Breakaway YF
That is not to say that I had had a bad week, but it was a little more work than the previous weeks. The River Pride and their cubs remained in the eastern sections along the Machaton River, but sadly it appears as though they too have lost a cub, with there now only being signs of four cubs (instead of five). We caught up with the pride a couple of times when I was on drive, but I was sad that they missed out on a large buffalo bull carcass just east of camp. The pride had been resting not far off during the day, but returned to the den that evening. During the night the hyenas found the carcass and began their fighting – usually enough to draw in some lions, and with the roars of a single Vuyela male getting closer, we headed out in the morning fully expecting to find a male lion or five feasting on the carcass. Instead we found about ten very nervous hyenas; even when the vultures descended to finish off the remains later in the morning, it failed to bring in any lions. The next morning, with very little of the carcass left, there were signs that a lion had been there, but without any real meat to be garnered from the carcass, he decided to move off.
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The roars of the four Birmingham Breakaway males to the south-west may have drawn their attention, but we heard no response from the Vuyelas to the intruders’ roars. The next morning the foursome of young males moved west, but time will tell if they will be tolerated this close to Vuyela male territory. It was possible that these roars did keep the Sark Breakaways further north; they were seen twice on our north-western boundary, and we had them for a day on Nkhari after they had been found with a warthog kill – not a great meal for 16 lions, and it was clear that the young cubs were struggling to get a good meal with so many adults around. The Giraffe Pride was reported a couple of times in the west this week, but none of us ventured that far west to see them.
(08-27-2024, 12:42 PM)Mwk85 Wrote: Not a recent sighting unfortunately, but the post does contain information on where he went prior to his vanishing as of late.
I hope the rumors are not true, but as more time passes it does not look good for this legendary male lion.
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