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(09-03-2024, 02:00 AM)KM600 Wrote: Don’t make much of the Mapoza part yet, not until there’s photo / video evidence.




is the 6th alive?
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(09-02-2024, 07:16 AM)Mwk85 Wrote:
(09-02-2024, 04:52 AM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:
(09-02-2024, 04:46 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: Giraffe male and Monwana breakaways after killing a hyena that was close to the cubs. Apparently they've named the Monwana breakaways the 'Makeppies Pride' and the Giraffe male is potentially known as the 'Makeppies Male' now. 


Sad for the hyena but good for the cubs that they have such an attentive dad! He’s a young guy too. His breakaway lionesses are all Mapoza daughters?


I believe the pride is made up of all younger lionesses which would make them his offspring

So giraffe male is a pride male and father to his daughters? The adult lionesses are giraffe males’ daughters? He must have been really young to sire the lionesses.
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(09-04-2024, 12:53 AM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:
(09-02-2024, 07:16 AM)Mwk85 Wrote:
(09-02-2024, 04:52 AM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:
(09-02-2024, 04:46 AM)Mwk85 Wrote: Giraffe male and Monwana breakaways after killing a hyena that was close to the cubs. Apparently they've named the Monwana breakaways the 'Makeppies Pride' and the Giraffe male is potentially known as the 'Makeppies Male' now. 


Sad for the hyena but good for the cubs that they have such an attentive dad! He’s a young guy too. His breakaway lionesses are all Mapoza daughters?


I believe the pride is made up of all younger lionesses which would make them his offspring

So giraffe male is a pride male and father to his daughters? The adult lionesses are giraffe males’ daughters? He must have been really young to sire the lionesses.


The Giraffe male is the pride male for the Monwana breakaways, the breakaway lionesses themselves should all be daughters of the Mapoza male. The breakaways (Mapozas' daughters) have cubs of their own now sired by the Giraffe male.
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(09-04-2024, 12:53 AM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote: So giraffe male is a pride male and father to his daughters? The adult lionesses are giraffe males’ daughters? He must have been really young to sire the lionesses.

This is young Giraffe male, son of BDM, he is born in 2017.
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Broken Tooth young male, 1 of sons of Maseke males, seen in Masungulo males territory few weeks ago:

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One of the Birmingham males on a kill stolen from the River Pride a few days ago. Couldn’t help but notice how this male looks very similar to Chelas boy, who herself was sired by the Matimbas and most ppl believe the Matimbas come from Birmingham Pride themselves. Just a thought anyways.

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Matimbas are proved to be born in the Birmingham pride, sired by the 3 Old Skybed males.
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(09-08-2024, 07:54 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Matimbas are proved to be born from the Birmingham pride, sired by the 3 Old Skybed males.

Yes, I was coming to say that I, too, believed it had been accepted they came from the Birmingham Pride. That pride may well hold the highest historical significance, in all of central, eastern, and South Africa, of any we are aware of.
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(09-08-2024, 08:22 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-08-2024, 07:54 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Matimbas are proved to be born from the Birmingham pride, sired by the 3 Old Skybed males.

Yes, I was coming to say that I, too, believed it had been accepted they came from the Birmingham Pride. That pride may well hold the highest historical significance, in all of central, eastern, and South Africa, of any we are aware of.

The Birmingham pride is definitely a legendary pride in Sub-Saharan Africa. The Marsh Pride in Masai Mara also comes to mind as one of Africa's most historically renowned prides.
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2/5 Birmingham Breakaway males:

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(09-09-2024, 04:20 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(09-08-2024, 08:22 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-08-2024, 07:54 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Matimbas are proved to be born from the Birmingham pride, sired by the 3 Old Skybed males.

Yes, I was coming to say that I, too, believed it had been accepted they came from the Birmingham Pride. That pride may well hold the highest historical significance, in all of central, eastern, and South Africa, of any we are aware of.

The Birmingham pride is definitely a legendary pride in Sub-Saharan Africa. The Marsh Pride in Masai Mara also comes to mind as one of Africa's most historically renowned prides.

Agreed, my friend, they have both equally impacted their regions tremendously. One cannot imagine the Mara lions without thinking about the mighty Marsh Pride.
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(09-09-2024, 06:18 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: 2/5 Birmingham Breakaway males:


Boys are looking extremely well and healthy.
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Read that three of the Northern Black Dam males were seen with at least three Monwana Pride lionesses. Whereabouts of the rest of the pride was unknown if my understanding is correct. Guess we'll either see a full pride takeover eventually or perhaps another split with the three that were seen with them. Still haven't seen anything in regards to Mapoza, unfortunately.
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(09-09-2024, 06:24 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-09-2024, 04:20 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(09-08-2024, 08:22 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-08-2024, 07:54 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Matimbas are proved to be born from the Birmingham pride, sired by the 3 Old Skybed males.

Yes, I was coming to say that I, too, believed it had been accepted they came from the Birmingham Pride. That pride may well hold the highest historical significance, in all of central, eastern, and South Africa, of any we are aware of.

The Birmingham pride is definitely a legendary pride in Sub-Saharan Africa. The Marsh Pride in Masai Mara also comes to mind as one of Africa's most historically renowned prides.

Agreed, my friend, they have both equally impacted their regions tremendously. One cannot imagine the Mara lions without thinking about the mighty Marsh Pride.

You know you're famous when you're featured in a David Attenborough documentary.
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(09-12-2024, 03:43 PM)NLAL11 Wrote:
(09-09-2024, 06:24 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-09-2024, 04:20 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(09-08-2024, 08:22 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-08-2024, 07:54 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Matimbas are proved to be born from the Birmingham pride, sired by the 3 Old Skybed males.

Yes, I was coming to say that I, too, believed it had been accepted they came from the Birmingham Pride. That pride may well hold the highest historical significance, in all of central, eastern, and South Africa, of any we are aware of.

The Birmingham pride is definitely a legendary pride in Sub-Saharan Africa. The Marsh Pride in Masai Mara also comes to mind as one of Africa's most historically renowned prides.

Agreed, my friend, they have both equally impacted their regions tremendously. One cannot imagine the Mara lions without thinking about the mighty Marsh Pride.

You know you're famous when you're featured in a David Attenborough documentary.

Just like the other Marsh Pride, that was featured in Savage Kingdom as well, which may be the greatest doc about lions to date, in a sea full of great ones. Sadly, the marsh area that they once ruled over has been overtaken by humans, and many of those lionesses featured in that documentary have been killed. A discussion for another time, and another thread.
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