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A Timbavat update: One of the Vuyela males was seen mating with the last Ross lioness in the Eastern parts of Klaserie
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(11-29-2021, 07:28 PM)Timbavati Wrote: A Timbavat update: One of the Vuyela males was seen mating with the last Ross lioness in the Eastern parts of Klaserie

He seen also mating with Hercules female?
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According to Johan on his recent Facebook live, the Torchwood and Birmingham Males chased the Birmingham Breakaway off a carcass last week. And they're starting to interact with another Avoca lioness, perhaps the duaghter of the milky eyed lioness . So those two are really building their confidence and dominance. Hopefully they start to roar and truly establish themselves.
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(11-26-2021, 03:33 PM)Potato Wrote: Tanda Tula update

This week also saw the reappearance of the Ross and Hercules females as they popped in for a brief period. Both girls were looking in good shape and their bond seemed as strong as any other lionesses, which is fascinating considering they are unrelated. The biggest surprise of the week was the appearance of eight members of the Avoca Pride in the south-west of our concession. Whilst we didn’t venture down to see them, it was interesting to hear that this pride made a very rare and random visit to our area and were encroaching into the Giraffe Pride territory. It seems they were trailing a buffalo herd and this led to them coming north, but time will tell if it was a one-off visit, or not.

Could someone give some background on these two lionesses and how they're related to current males with the same name?  Thank you in advance.
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(11-30-2021, 01:46 AM)Slayerd Wrote: According to Johan on his recent Facebook live, the Torchwood and Birmingham Males chased the Birmingham Breakaway off a carcass last week. And they're starting to interact with another Avoca lioness, perhaps the duaghter of the milky eyed lioness . So those two are really building their confidence and dominance. Hopefully they start to roar and truly establish themselves.

It would be very nice if Avoca pride would return to Shindzela for good and settle down with Torchwwod and Birmingham males.
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(11-30-2021, 01:51 AM)DE_66 Wrote:
(11-26-2021, 03:33 PM)Potato Wrote: Tanda Tula update

This week also saw the reappearance of the Ross and Hercules females as they popped in for a brief period. Both girls were looking in good shape and their bond seemed as strong as any other lionesses, which is fascinating considering they are unrelated. The biggest surprise of the week was the appearance of eight members of the Avoca Pride in the south-west of our concession. Whilst we didn’t venture down to see them, it was interesting to hear that this pride made a very rare and random visit to our area and were encroaching into the Giraffe Pride territory. It seems they were trailing a buffalo herd and this led to them coming north, but time will tell if it was a one-off visit, or not.

Could someone give some background on these two lionesses and how they're related to current males with the same name?  Thank you in advance.

Ussualy coalition of males are named by the name of pride they came from so for example Birmingham males are called such because they came from Birmingham pride, Avoca males are called such because they came from Avoca pride and so on. Same case is there with Hercules male and two Ross males. I do not know tho how old are those lionesses so idk if those are brother-sister or mother-sons or cousins or what.
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(11-30-2021, 08:31 PM)Potato Wrote:
(11-30-2021, 01:51 AM)DE_66 Wrote:
(11-26-2021, 03:33 PM)Potato Wrote: Tanda Tula update

This week also saw the reappearance of the Ross and Hercules females as they popped in for a brief period. Both girls were looking in good shape and their bond seemed as strong as any other lionesses, which is fascinating considering they are unrelated. The biggest surprise of the week was the appearance of eight members of the Avoca Pride in the south-west of our concession. Whilst we didn’t venture down to see them, it was interesting to hear that this pride made a very rare and random visit to our area and were encroaching into the Giraffe Pride territory. It seems they were trailing a buffalo herd and this led to them coming north, but time will tell if it was a one-off visit, or not.

Could someone give some background on these two lionesses and how they're related to current males with the same name?  Thank you in advance.

Ussualy coalition of males are named by the name of pride they came from so for example Birmingham males are called such because they came from Birmingham pride, Avoca males are called such because they came from Avoca pride and so on. Same case is there with Hercules male and two Ross males. I do not know tho how old are those lionesses so idk if those are brother-sister or mother-sons or cousins or what.

It depends who does the naming and if it’s practical to do so.   Some reserves coalitions based on locality.   In the case of YBM and TYM they originate from two separate prides (Birmingham and Torchwood) , two separate localities (Ngala and Sabi Sands).   I will assume they will get a name that will most likely be related to the area they seem to dominate first.  My guess.
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(11-30-2021, 01:51 AM)DE_66 Wrote:
(11-26-2021, 03:33 PM)Potato Wrote: Tanda Tula update

This week also saw the reappearance of the Ross and Hercules females as they popped in for a brief period. Both girls were looking in good shape and their bond seemed as strong as any other lionesses, which is fascinating considering they are unrelated. The biggest surprise of the week was the appearance of eight members of the Avoca Pride in the south-west of our concession. Whilst we didn’t venture down to see them, it was interesting to hear that this pride made a very rare and random visit to our area and were encroaching into the Giraffe Pride territory. It seems they were trailing a buffalo herd and this led to them coming north, but time will tell if it was a one-off visit, or not.

Could someone give some background on these two lionesses and how they're related to current males with the same name?  Thank you in advance.

I believe the milky eyed lioness is the matriarch of the Avoca Pride. She’s the mother of the two xikukutzu males whom are partners to Mapoza.    I’m not certain of her relationship to the Avocas whom also came from this Pride.  I also doNT know the ID of the second lioness they’ve been seen with.
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Hi guys. Timbavati map from November, 30, 2021 is here. All information has been recorded by reliable sources and by first hand.

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(11-30-2021, 01:51 AM)DE_66 Wrote:
(11-26-2021, 03:33 PM)Potato Wrote: Tanda Tula update

This week also saw the reappearance of the Ross and Hercules females as they popped in for a brief period. Both girls were looking in good shape and their bond seemed as strong as any other lionesses, which is fascinating considering they are unrelated. The biggest surprise of the week was the appearance of eight members of the Avoca Pride in the south-west of our concession. Whilst we didn’t venture down to see them, it was interesting to hear that this pride made a very rare and random visit to our area and were encroaching into the Giraffe Pride territory. It seems they were trailing a buffalo herd and this led to them coming north, but time will tell if it was a one-off visit, or not.

Could someone give some background on these two lionesses and how they're related to current males with the same name?  Thank you in advance.

The last Ross lioness is most likely the sister of the two Ross males. The  age of the Ross lioness seem match with the the age of both Ross males, worn teeth among other characterics. Mostly of the coalitions in the Greater Kruger National Park and KNP get a coalition name according in the pride they were born. Ross males were born into the Ross pride, Hence the name of the Ross coalition comes from. Same for the Torchwood young male or Birmingham young male, As well, For the three River pride, Skorro males, Monwana males & the Black dam young males among others. Regarding the Hercules lioness, I didn't get any pic of her so far. So, once I get pics, We'll guess his age and see if match's with the 'Born timeline' of the Hercules male
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(11-29-2021, 11:30 PM)Mdz123 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 07:28 PM)Timbavati Wrote: A Timbavat update: One of the Vuyela males was seen mating with the last Ross lioness in the Eastern parts of Klaserie

He seen also mating with Hercules female?

He was only seen/reported with the Ross lioness.
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A king in his prime - A breathtaking portrait of Skorro male 'Sindzisa'. The dominant male over the Mayambula pride with his brother 'Rhasa'. They killed one of the Nharhu males to claim the central parts of the Timbavati. These two come across the area with iron paws!
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The Sark breakaway young male on November 23, 2021 at Shindzela Tented Camp 
Photo credits: Johan Adolf Smalman 

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Birmingham Young Male and the Torchwood Male.


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More photos of Torchwood young male
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