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Sand River pride cubs sired by the Nkuhlu coalition
Atleast one of them seems to have the striking dark orange eyes like the Snip Tail Nkuhlu, hopefully all of them make it this time and the litters of the pride start to have some success...
03-29-2025, 06:56 PM( This post was last modified: 03-29-2025, 06:57 PM by sunless )
Update from Cedric of WildEarth:
-4 Kambula Males still at North, seems to be they are at EP or Arathusa.
-SBDM and Avoca Male is sighted today in/near Djuma same area as where they are sighted by WE this month. Update from Mel Chiert in IG:
-Kruger Male run towards Londolozi when Kambula Males have come North and hung around the kill with 1 NK female.
Poor Kruger male.
Idk what happened with S.Avoca or even if he is still out there but regardless its unfortunate that Kruger male has all that will to become dominant again in him but has been alone
(03-29-2025, 07:51 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Poor Kruger male.
Idk what happened with S.Avoca or even if he is still out there but regardless its unfortunate that Kruger male has all that will to become dominant again in him but has been alone
Agreed, like K4, I really feel for him. Maybe he and K4 should team up, together, they'd be a really formidable duo, with their drive to become territorial/dominant.
(03-29-2025, 07:51 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Poor Kruger male.
Idk what happened with S.Avoca or even if he is still out there but regardless its unfortunate that Kruger male has all that will to become dominant again in him but has been alone
Agreed, like K4, I really feel for him. Maybe he and K4 should team up, together, they'd be a really formidable duo, with their drive to become territorial/dominant.
Would be good if he teams up with Nkuhuma Male and Talamati Male as it seems like the 2 of them is really testing the waters both in West and South as they have been more vocal/roaring more as the time goes on.
(03-29-2025, 07:51 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Poor Kruger male.
Idk what happened with S.Avoca or even if he is still out there but regardless its unfortunate that Kruger male has all that will to become dominant again in him but has been alone
To be honest there are a lot adult nomadic males in Sabi Sands now with which he could join forces so he is not in a bad situation regarding his prospects to became dominant male again.
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03-29-2025, 08:42 PM( This post was last modified: 03-29-2025, 08:43 PM by Ngonya )
(03-29-2025, 08:16 PM)sunless Wrote: Would be good if he teams up with Nkuhuma Male and Talamati Male as it seems like the 2 of them is really testing the waters both in West and South as they have been more vocal/roaring more as the time goes on.
That would be good indeed, although im not sure what are the odds of the two accepting a third male?
Especially a strong male with a character such as the Kruger male.
(03-29-2025, 08:32 PM)Potato Wrote: To be honest there are a lot adult nomadic males in Sabi Sands now with which he could join forces so he is not in a bad situation regarding his prospects to became dominant male again.
Theres the young Monwana male, the smaller SBDM, the Avoca/SBDM coalition, the Nkuhuma/Talamati coalition, Tumbela male and perhaps the S Avoca male.
Plenty of options, but lack of stability in each. As i said idk whats the odds of a duo accepting him, it would be great if it happened thought.
Nkuhuma/Talamati are duo of strong healthy males.
Avoca/SBDM are duo of strong healthy males too.
Tumbela is in really bad condition.
Monwana is fairly young and inexperienced.
Smaller SBDM loves following Nkuhuma pride and it wouldn't be the first time he and Kruger could be with/tolerating one another, but he is sometimes limping, lacks the confidence and strenght.
S Avoca we dont even know if he is still alive.
Did i forget any? Bc IMO none of those are options a match to the Kruger male, except for the duos but those seem more unlikely
(03-29-2025, 08:16 PM)sunless Wrote: Would be good if he teams up with Nkuhuma Male and Talamati Male as it seems like the 2 of them is really testing the waters both in West and South as they have been more vocal/roaring more as the time goes on.
That would be good indeed, although im not sure what are the odds of the two accepting a third male?
Especially a strong male with a character such as the Kruger male.
(03-29-2025, 08:32 PM)Potato Wrote: To be honest there are a lot adult nomadic males in Sabi Sands now with which he could join forces so he is not in a bad situation regarding his prospects to became dominant male again.
Theres the young Monwana male, the smaller SBDM, the Avoca/SBDM coalition, the Nkuhuma/Talamati coalition, Tumbela male and perhaps the S Avoca male.
Plenty of options, but lack of stability in each. As i said idk whats the odds of a duo accepting him, it would be great if it happened thought.
Nkuhuma/Talamati are duo of strong healthy males.
Avoca/SBDM are duo of strong healthy males too.
Tumbela is in really bad condition.
Monwana is fairly young and inexperienced.
Smaller SBDM loves following Nkuhuma pride and it wouldn't be the first time he and Kruger could be with/tolerating one another, but he is sometimes limping, lacks the confidence and strenght.
S Avoca we dont even know if he is still alive.
Did i forget any? Bc IMO none of those are options a match to the Kruger male, except for the duos but those seem more unlikely
I think you only forgot the Styx male / Floppy Ear.
But yeah, I agree, it seems quite unlikely for me to see Kruger male link up with a duo like Nkuhuma and Talamati, with Kruger's fierce character. I would suspect him to be the leading figure in a potential coalition. A lone nomadic like Floppy Ear could maybe work, with Kruger then being the dominant of the two. How often does this happen, older males being in a partnership / coalition with younger males?
(03-29-2025, 08:42 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Monwana is fairly young and inexperienced.
Is he still in arena? Latest raports says 5 Monwanas reunited in Timbavati so it should be all of them no?
(03-29-2025, 08:42 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Smaller SBDM loves following Nkuhuma pride and it wouldn't be the first time he and Kruger could be with/tolerating one another, but he is sometimes limping, lacks the confidence and strenght.
I wouldn't sleep on that option. I think you underestimate a guy. He is still male in peak age and in peak condition aside of limp.
(03-29-2025, 08:42 PM)Ngonya Wrote: Did i forget any?
I think at that point we should be considering young Styx and young Nkuhuma breakaway as among big boys. Styx male already shown signs of territorial ambitions.
(03-29-2025, 08:42 PM)Ngonya Wrote: except for the duos but those seem more unlikely
I dissagree with such statement. I think people grow too attachet to thinking that unrelated males joins up only in a duos, like coalitions such as Mpondo or De Laporte wouldn't exist. If you think on it unrelated males are joining up to higher their odds of taking over and keeping territory. Most often getting into a duo is enough to achive that. Nowdays however in Sabi Sands it rather won't be enough to do the job so from that point of view it make perfect sense to add another member into coalition.
(03-29-2025, 08:52 PM)MrLoesoe Wrote: How often does this happen, older males being in a partnership / coalition with younger males?
Often enough to think male lions rather do not consider age gap as a problem to make a coalition at all.
