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Kambula/Ntsevu Pride

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The next generation of the Kambula Pride in the mother's belly

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Ntsevu pride feeding on an impale stolen from cheetas




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(02-02-2025, 06:02 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Ntsevu pride feeding on an impale stolen from cheetas





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(02-02-2025, 07:35 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(02-02-2025, 06:02 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Ntsevu pride feeding on an impale stolen from cheetas





Fixed your post for you. We have a tutorial that explains how to embed videos, located in our tutorial section, which I will link for you. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to a member of the Mod team. Cheers, my friend!

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Ok thank you for the assistance!
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Kambula Pride were seen recently in Umkumbe

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(01-19-2025, 09:16 PM)Guillermo94 Wrote:
(01-19-2025, 01:43 PM)MrLoesoe Wrote: at the end of the video we see the Kambula pride. Some of the male youngsters (one getting quite a dominant look on his face. Future leader?). And two pregnant Kambula lionesses, with one of the Ndzengha males.






Wonder if lioness separate after cubs. I always thought they separate when they have cubs, and if same males around lions of cubs they return with same lionesses.

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(02-03-2025, 07:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(01-19-2025, 09:16 PM)Guillermo94 Wrote:
(01-19-2025, 01:43 PM)MrLoesoe Wrote: at the end of the video we see the Kambula pride. Some of the male youngsters (one getting quite a dominant look on his face. Future leader?). And two pregnant Kambula lionesses, with one of the Ndzengha males.






Wonder if lioness separate after cubs. I always thought they separate when they have cubs, and if same males around lions of cubs they return with same lionesses.

@Guillermo94 Twice in the past week or two, including today, you have made random threads, the subject matter of which, in both instances, already have active threads. Please know that we have a rule against making new threads, without prior Mod approval.

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Hello friends!

I made a figure showing the relationship between Tsalala-Mangheni-Kambula prides. I hope you like it! Please tell me if something is wrong because Kambula lineage is very tricky.

You can download the image and see more detail.

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(02-04-2025, 07:01 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Hello friends!

I made a figure showing the relationship between Tsalala-Mangheni-Kambula prides. I hope you like it! Please tell me if something is wrong because Kambula lineage is very tricky.

You can download the image and see more detail.
 
I like the chart. there is one thing I wanted to say. Is heart breaking to say baby cub passed. 

Also Kambula lionesses had more cubs? 

I wanted to ask what cub sub adult was hurt when Styxt male lion was around?
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(02-04-2025, 07:01 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Hello friends!

I made a figure showing the relationship between Tsalala-Mangheni-Kambula prides. I hope you like it! Please tell me if something is wrong because Kambula lineage is very tricky.

You can download the image and see more detail.

These are extremely helpful, you have really been putting in the work. Thank you, very much, for that!
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Thumbs Up  ( This post was last modified: 02-04-2025, 09:04 PM by RookiePundit Edit Reason: typo )

(02-04-2025, 07:01 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Hello friends!

I made a figure showing the relationship between Tsalala-Mangheni-Kambula prides. I hope you like it! Please tell me if something is wrong because Kambula lineage is very tricky.

You can download the image and see more detail.

I believe it is currently believed all surviving Ntsevu cubs are not from the same litter - that one of the younger cubs managed to survive meaning one of the older ones did not make it. 

Also Mhangeni Twelve probably deserves a mention (just about their existence) if the family tree displays other males and their fate and already display some of them (Big Boy's sister). 

I assume the Plain Camps offspring in Mhangeni pride are just assigned to different mothers proportionately and we don't actually know whose cub is who among the surviving ones, beyond the No.10 who was always smaller and easily identified. I guess that's alright, but maybe someone will take it as a dogma in the future, possibly although worth another note or merge them together. Same thing in the recent Nkuhuma tree, where I believe only the surviving young male's mother is believed to be known and the other might be of any of the three posssibly mothers with assumption that each lioness has a surviving offspring due not coming back to oestrus but with no clue who is whose sister beyond that.

Like But thumbs up, just nitpicking.
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@FACR2212 Mangheni pride was sired by the 6 Mapogo, not only Mr.T and KT.
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The Ntsevu youngsters still with some remnants of the mange they were stricken with.    Hopefully the worse is behind and they do t have a setback.  


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(02-04-2025, 07:01 AM)FACR2212 Wrote: Hello friends!

I made a figure showing the relationship between Tsalala-Mangheni-Kambula prides. I hope you like it! Please tell me if something is wrong because Kambula lineage is very tricky.

You can download the image and see more detail.

Hi has there been any news of any new cubs in the Kambula pride?
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@Guillermo94 @BA0701 @RookiePundit @Mapokser 
I appreciate your feedback!!

I will update it taking in consideration all relevant contributions. Regarding current cubs/subadults, the diagram is not intended to be definitive, I have the intention to update it in the next weeks taking consideration not only the lattest but rather the most documented information. You can help me providing first source reports or significant sightings.

@RookiePundit Mangheni twelve are worthy of mention, but I decided to include only those lions who reached adulthood, since the space is limited. Big Boy's sister can't be omitted because she is a living member of Mangheni pride. Anyway, in honor of beloved Big Boy Mangheni, I will sum him in the next actualization of the figure.

@Mapokser  I'm 90% sure that the 4 Mangheni females were daughters of Mr T and KT, because Tsalala pride was seen mating with those two males in 2009 after the split of the coalition. The other 4 males of Mapogo coalition were mostly seen in western Sabi Sands with Othawa and Ximhungwe pride.
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