Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage

[Ngonya]

Darker Nkuhuma boy, Ridge Nose's son, with a buffalo calf carcass during January 2025

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[Ngonya]

Darker Nkuhuma boy, Ridge Nose's son at Kruger National Park

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by Biodivmax Thr

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[Fenix123]

Khanya Talamati with some injuries 

Credits to johnnwilliamss

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[BA0701]

(03-07-2025, 07:46 PM)Fenix123 Wrote: Khanya Talamati with some injuries 

Credits to johnnwilliamss

I wonder where Nkuhuma is, perhaps they clashed with the Nwas, or, depending on where in Londolozi, they may have clashed with the PCMs as well. Reply

[Mapokser]

Nobody's as experienced in being attacked as a nomad than NK, he is probably fine somehwere else, especially considering how Talamati was the one caught. Reply

[sunless]

(03-07-2025, 08:59 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 07:46 PM)Fenix123 Wrote: Khanya Talamati with some injuries 

Credits to johnnwilliamss

I wonder where Nkuhuma is, perhaps they clashed with the Nwas, or, depending on where in Londolozi, they may have clashed with the PCMs as well.

He is said to be there with Khanya and just in the bush, the 2 have been going back and forth in Singita even though they are chased last week they have gone back 4 days ago and maybe chased again today by the PCM. Seems like Nkuhuma and Talamati Male is trying the waters in Singita if they can control a pride there. Reply

[KM600]

The one positive is that NK is still with him, we seen him completely disappear from both Tumbela and Skorro Orpen the second they had confrontations with the nearby coalitions. Reply

[BA0701]

(03-07-2025, 09:24 PM)sunless Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 08:59 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 07:46 PM)Fenix123 Wrote: Khanya Talamati with some injuries 

Credits to johnnwilliamss

I wonder where Nkuhuma is, perhaps they clashed with the Nwas, or, depending on where in Londolozi, they may have clashed with the PCMs as well.

He is said to be there with Khanya and just in the bush, the 2 have been going back and forth in Singita even though they are chased last week they have gone back 4 days ago and maybe chased again today by the PCM. Seems like Nkuhuma and Talamati Male is trying the waters in Singita if they can control a pride there.

Manghenis are the only ones in that area that might be available. One of the biggest hurdles for them, imo, is Nkuhuma's penchant for aggression towards the females of prides he is attempting to take over, he is known to have been involved in killing and injuring a few. Reply

[NLAL11]

(03-07-2025, 09:54 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 09:24 PM)sunless Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 08:59 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 07:46 PM)Fenix123 Wrote: Khanya Talamati with some injuries 

Credits to johnnwilliamss

I wonder where Nkuhuma is, perhaps they clashed with the Nwas, or, depending on where in Londolozi, they may have clashed with the PCMs as well.

He is said to be there with Khanya and just in the bush, the 2 have been going back and forth in Singita even though they are chased last week they have gone back 4 days ago and maybe chased again today by the PCM. Seems like Nkuhuma and Talamati Male is trying the waters in Singita if they can control a pride there.

Manghenis are the only ones in that area that might be available. One of the biggest hurdles for them, imo, is Nkuhuma's penchant for aggression towards the females of prides he is attempting to take over, he is known to have been involved in killing and injuring a few.

Yeah, not sure I want them going anywhere near the Mhangenis to be honest. Hope the pride can avoid them. Reply

[BA0701]

(03-08-2025, 12:16 AM)NLAL11 Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 09:54 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 09:24 PM)sunless Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 08:59 PM)BA0701 Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 07:46 PM)Fenix123 Wrote: Khanya Talamati with some injuries 

Credits to johnnwilliamss

I wonder where Nkuhuma is, perhaps they clashed with the Nwas, or, depending on where in Londolozi, they may have clashed with the PCMs as well.

He is said to be there with Khanya and just in the bush, the 2 have been going back and forth in Singita even though they are chased last week they have gone back 4 days ago and maybe chased again today by the PCM. Seems like Nkuhuma and Talamati Male is trying the waters in Singita if they can control a pride there.

Manghenis are the only ones in that area that might be available. One of the biggest hurdles for them, imo, is Nkuhuma's penchant for aggression towards the females of prides he is attempting to take over, he is known to have been involved in killing and injuring a few.

Yeah, not sure I want them going anywhere near the Mhangenis to be honest. Hope the pride can avoid them.

Agreed, and I have always hoped for Nkuhuma's success, but not at the cost of anyone else's. Reply

[MrLoesoe]

Hey guys I have a few questions, I came across this video from October 2023, featuring Khanya Talamati male, clearly recognizable through his 'bald' head, his brother, and the Nkhumuma male.

Is this the same Nkuhuma male he is in a coalition with at the moment? If yes, Khanya Talamati and him have been in a coalition before their current partnership? Or is this a different male?

And, is this 'the' brother of Khanya, Dzwihala, of whom I read earlier on this forum that he was huge (he is indeed I now see, bulky compared to Khanya, who is not exactly small either. And both are tall) and had great potential, but unfortunately dissappeared?

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[afortich]

(03-08-2025, 01:47 AM)MrLoesoe Wrote: Hey guys I have a few questions, I came across this video from October 2023, featuring Khanya Talamati male, clearly recognizable through his 'bald' head, his brother, and the Nkhumuma male.

Is this the same Nkuhuma male he is in a coalition with at the moment? If yes, Khanya Talamati and him have been in a coalition before their current partnership? Or is this a different male?

And, is this 'the' brother of Khanya, Dzwihala, of whom I read earlier on this forum that he was huge (he is indeed I now see, bulky compared to Khanya, who is not exactly small either. And both are tall) and had great potential, but unfortunately dissappeared?

Yes, he is the same. Always accepted by Khanya, DM junior didn't fully accept NYM. Reply

[KM600]

(03-08-2025, 01:53 AM)afortich Wrote:

(03-08-2025, 01:47 AM)MrLoesoe Wrote: Hey guys I have a few questions, I came across this video from October 2023, featuring Khanya Talamati male, clearly recognizable through his 'bald' head, his brother, and the Nkhumuma male.

Is this the same Nkuhuma male he is in a coalition with at the moment? If yes, Khanya Talamati and him have been in a coalition before their current partnership? Or is this a different male?

And, is this 'the' brother of Khanya, Dzwihala, of whom I read earlier on this forum that he was huge (he is indeed I now see, bulky compared to Khanya, who is not exactly small either. And both are tall) and had great potential, but unfortunately dissappeared?

Yes, he is the same. Always accepted by Khanya, DM junior didn't fully accept NYM.

Not true, we have no idea why NK left these two boys aside from the fact he sought out their sisters who had just moved south to be controlled by the Gijimas. 

There is not a single video showing Khanya bonding with NK without his brother there around the time they all joined together, but there is video footage of NK being more bonded to Dzwihala, being they had already joined together previously in Northern Sabi Sands. 

Ppl just claim Dzwihala was most prolly the reason why the partnership ended as he was likely the most dominant of the 3, which never made any sense as one male has to be the most dominant. It doesn’t automatically mean they are the reason the group fractures. Reply

[Tr1x24]

(03-08-2025, 02:15 AM)KM600 Wrote: Ppl just claim Dzwihala was most prolly the reason why the partnership ended as he was likely the most dominant of the 3, which never made any sense as one male has to be the most dominant. It doesn’t automatically mean they are the reason the group fractures.

DM male and NK where hanging alone when Khanya was absent for few weeks, so i dont think he was the problem either, as he and NK where more closer back then than NK and Khanya.

At that time NK was jumping in between Skorro Orpen, Tumbela and Talamatis, but didnt stick with neither. Reply

[afortich]

(03-08-2025, 02:15 AM)KM600 Wrote:

(03-08-2025, 01:53 AM)afortich Wrote:

(03-08-2025, 01:47 AM)MrLoesoe Wrote: Hey guys I have a few questions, I came across this video from October 2023, featuring Khanya Talamati male, clearly recognizable through his 'bald' head, his brother, and the Nkhumuma male.

Is this the same Nkuhuma male he is in a coalition with at the moment? If yes, Khanya Talamati and him have been in a coalition before their current partnership? Or is this a different male?

And, is this 'the' brother of Khanya, Dzwihala, of whom I read earlier on this forum that he was huge (he is indeed I now see, bulky compared to Khanya, who is not exactly small either. And both are tall) and had great potential, but unfortunately dissappeared?

Yes, he is the same. Always accepted by Khanya, DM junior didn't fully accept NYM.

Not true, we have no idea why NK left these two boys aside from the fact he sought out their sisters who had just moved south to be controlled by the Gijimas. 

There is not a single video showing Khanya bonding with NK without his brother there around the time they all joined together, but there is video footage of NK being more bonded to Dzwihala, being they had already joined together previously in Northern Sabi Sands. 

Ppl just claim Dzwihala was most prolly the reason why the partnership ended as he was likely the most dominant of the 3, which never made any sense as one male has to be the most dominant. It doesn’t automatically mean they are the reason the group fractures.

I didn't say DM junior was the reason for that initial coalition failure. However, I saw videos when the three of them were together and DM Jr. rejected NYM in an aggressive manner. Then, NYM started going back and forth as @Tr1x24 mentioned above. Reply