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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage

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He is the best!!



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And ... here may be the proof that Mohawk is Grandad....



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(01-02-2025, 06:39 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: And ... here may be the proof that Mohawk is Grandad....



Hopefully mohawk doesn't try anything funny with these cubs
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(01-02-2025, 06:39 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: And ... here may be the proof that Mohawk is Grandad....




So proud of these boys
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Darker Kruger NK male and Mantimahle female at S36, by Gerrie
"3:00pm (yesterday)
The lions on the S36 are done with the kill. All the vultures are done and are sitting up in a tree with full bellies. A big male just went to drink a little bit. The cubs are playing around a little bit. Unfortunately, for now, it's mostly behind the bushes. But I had some great shots. He also went drinking out in the open."

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Both NK boys, by Charlize

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( This post was last modified: 01-02-2025, 11:31 PM by Mapokser )

If Mohawk were to kill the cubs, I think he'd already have done that, he either accepts the cubs as part of his coalition/group/pride or maybe there's a chance he's one of the fathers too, he was seen with the females many months ago too, and was mating recently as well, the sons never rejected them, the females accepts him as well, they probably would be more defensive if they had not mated with the old guy as well.

Anyways the younger NK has just turned 5, the other one is barely over 5,5, they are only 2 ( as I doubt Mohawk gave them any help in establishing and defending the territory ), and are already dominant males with cubs.

I always knew they had the potential to be precocious since they were big for their age, roared before the much older Kambula, and came from a lineage with precocious lions ( Avoca and Matimba ). Not to mention they are neighbors to the 3 prime Imbali males, as well, poasibly, the 5 Nkuhlu.

It's a bit fascinating that they were in the same area the 4 Kambula are, and the 4 Kambula are still nomads.

Out of the 2018-2019 generation from the Greater Kruger, I think only the 4 younger Kambulas aren't dominant males, their slightly older brothers are dominants for over a year, and even smaller coalitions of quite younger males like Imbali S8 sons and NK males are dominant.

Edit: It seems the NK males have at least 3 females, possibly more.
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(01-02-2025, 10:23 PM)Mapokser Wrote: If Mohawk were to kill the cubs, I think he'd already have done that, he either accepts the cubs as part of his coalition/group/pride or maybe there's a chance he's one of the fathers too, he was seen with the females many months ago too, and was mating recently as well, the sons never rejected them, the females accepts him as well, they probably would be more defensive if they had not mated with the old guy as well.

Anyways the younger NK has just turned 5, the other one is barely over 5,5, they are only 2 ( as I doubt Mohawk gave them any help in establishing and defending the territory ), and are already dominant males with cubs.

I always knew they had the potential to be precocious since they were big for their age, roared before the much older Kambula, and came from a lineage with precocious lions ( Avoca and Matimba ). Not to mention they are neighbors to the 3 prime Imbali males, as well, poasibly, the 5 Nkuhlu.

It's a bit fascinating that they were in the same area the 4 Kambula are, and the 4 Kambula are still nomads.

Out of the 2018-2019 generation from the Greater Kruger, I think only the 4 younger Kambulas aren't dominant males, their slightly older brothers are dominants for over a year, and even smaller coalitions of quite younger males like Imbali S8 sons and NK males are dominant.

Edit: It seems the NK males have at least 3 females, possibly more.

I would wait with such prais. It seems they are still in conflict with Imbali males and still could end up like Tintswalo males with Skorro pride did. That being said I am not saying they won't succed, just that it is better wait with praising them as successfull untill they actually became successfull insted of praising them after they just got on to the road of potentially becoming successfull.
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(01-02-2025, 10:23 PM)Mapokser Wrote: If Mohawk were to kill the cubs, I think he'd already have done that, he either accepts the cubs as part of his coalition/group/pride or maybe there's a chance he's one of the fathers too, he was seen with the females many months ago too, and was mating recently as well, the sons never rejected them, the females accepts him as well, they probably would be more defensive if they had not mated with the old guy as well.

Anyways the younger NK has just turned 5, the other one is barely over 5,5, they are only 2 ( as I doubt Mohawk gave them any help in establishing and defending the territory ), and are already dominant males with cubs.

I always knew they had the potential to be precocious since they were big for their age, roared before the much older Kambula, and came from a lineage with precocious lions ( Avoca and Matimba ). Not to mention they are neighbors to the 3 prime Imbali males, as well, poasibly, the 5 Nkuhlu.

It's a bit fascinating that they were in the same area the 4 Kambula are, and the 4 Kambula are still nomads.

Out of the 2018-2019 generation from the Greater Kruger, I think only the 4 younger Kambulas aren't dominant males, their slightly older brothers are dominants for over a year, and even smaller coalitions of quite younger males like Imbali S8 sons and NK males are dominant.

Edit: It seems the NK males have at least 3 females, possibly more.

Interesting similar how Masi Mara lion was with sons had cubs with lionesses. Wonder if it would be hard to know if Mohawk is father to any cub? Mohawk son looks like him. Mohawk, cubs would be son, or grand.
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( This post was last modified: 01-03-2025, 03:43 AM by Mapokser )

@Potato Titnswalos didn't even get to have cubs in the Skorro pride and were already prime dominant males abandoning an area/territory to takeover a new one.

These are 5yo males with cubs already. Yeah anything can happen but it seems 3 Imbali haven't been seen together in a long time, it's possible they are down to 2, or at least only 2 competing with NKuhumas.

In a 1v1, prime, experienced Imbali couldn't chase Chela's 4,5yo seminomadic son. 2v1 they chased him a while ago ( or maybe 2v2, it wasn't clear, but footage only shows 2 Imbali and Chela's son ).

Maybe Imbalis will get them, maybe a buffalo, maybe diseases, who knows, but for now they are very successful for their age and I don't think 2 Imbalis can oust them now that they have cubs and an established pride, if they aren't unlucky to be caught alone, especially if Mohawk ends up as a permanent coalition member, at least helping with roars.
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