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The one who abandoned his brother, but he never went to the other 4, he'd be killed if he tried.
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(07-28-2024, 11:35 PM)Mapokser Wrote: The one who abandoned his brother, but he never went to the other 4, he'd be killed if he tried.

What about the brother that's usually solo?? Or have all 4 stayed together now??
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(07-29-2024, 12:28 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote:
(07-28-2024, 11:35 PM)Mapokser Wrote: The one who abandoned his brother, but he never went to the other 4, he'd be killed if he tried.

What about the brother that's usually solo?? Or have all 4 stayed together now??

There are two solo SBDMs, the one in the picture is the one who left his injured brother and went to Manyeleti, the other solo SBDM is the one who was injured and remained in SS, the same one who has been seen with Mohawk and the Nkuhumas. The other four BDMs are the NBDMs, and they have all been shown to be together, just recently.
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(07-29-2024, 12:49 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 12:28 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote:
(07-28-2024, 11:35 PM)Mapokser Wrote: The one who abandoned his brother, but he never went to the other 4, he'd be killed if he tried.

What about the brother that's usually solo?? Or have all 4 stayed together now??

There are two solo SBDMs, the one in the picture is the one who left his injured brother and went to Manyeleti, the other solo SBDM is the one who was injured and remained in SS, the same one who has been seen with Mohawk and the Nkuhumas. The other four BDMs are the NBDMs, and they have all been shown to be together, just recently.
Thought I read nbdm had 1 dm avoca type. Glad all 4 are together
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(07-29-2024, 01:11 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 12:49 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 12:28 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote:
(07-28-2024, 11:35 PM)Mapokser Wrote: The one who abandoned his brother, but he never went to the other 4, he'd be killed if he tried.

What about the brother that's usually solo?? Or have all 4 stayed together now??

There are two solo SBDMs, the one in the picture is the one who left his injured brother and went to Manyeleti, the other solo SBDM is the one who was injured and remained in SS, the same one who has been seen with Mohawk and the Nkuhumas. The other four BDMs are the NBDMs, and they have all been shown to be together, just recently.
Thought I read nbdm had 1 dm avoca type. Glad all 4 are together

I believe one of the NBDMs sticks to himself fairly often, but the recent sightings have them all 4 together, perhaps they are growing closer, or he just happened to be with them on those sightings. Not sure.
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(07-29-2024, 12:28 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote:
(07-28-2024, 11:35 PM)Mapokser Wrote: The one who abandoned his brother, but he never went to the other 4, he'd be killed if he tried.

What about the brother that's usually solo?? Or have all 4 stayed together now??

That one goes back and forth to his brothers from time to time then back to spend time w the Guernsey Breakaways.

Yesterday he was mating w one of those females. Let me find the link.
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(07-29-2024, 01:50 AM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(07-29-2024, 12:28 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote:
(07-28-2024, 11:35 PM)Mapokser Wrote: The one who abandoned his brother, but he never went to the other 4, he'd be killed if he tried.

What about the brother that's usually solo?? Or have all 4 stayed together now??

That one goes back and forth to his brothers from time to time then back to spend time w the Guernsey Breakaways.

Yesterday he was mating w one of those females.   Let me find the link.
Yeah i was hoping he'd link with that brother.
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The Makepisi Pride (FKA Monwana Breakaways ) and their Pride Male Makepisi (Girrafe Male)

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Wow you can see the BDM in the Giraffe male's face.
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(07-30-2024, 08:15 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Wow you can see the BDM in the Giraffe male's face.

IKR? that was immediatly what came to my mind when I saw that huge head
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Ross males in trouble vs 3 Monwana young males:

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1 of Ross males managed to dominate 1 young male:


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But looks like reinforcement came.

These boys look to be very bold and confident for their age, and there should be more of them ( i think atleast 5 males).


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Does anyone know their exact birth dates?
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Age is taking a toll in them, dominant males generally don't lose clashes to 3 subadults.
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(08-01-2024, 12:03 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Age is taking a toll in them, dominant males generally don't lose clashes to 3 subadults.

They are not exactly subadults, they should be around 4 yrs of age (idk their exact birth dates, but they are born in 2020 thru multiple litters).

Some of those guys looked big as Avoca young male, who is pretty much fully grown and not a small male himself.

New update: Ross males retaked the kill
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(07-31-2024, 11:57 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: These boys look to be very bold and confident for their age, and there should be more of them ( i think atleast 5 males
same boys that were hanging with Mapoza? 

I wonder where he is. Anyway if thats the same boys im thinking about, they were really ruthlesss when attacking the Avoca Young male along with their father.

Great info and good to know there are still some bold young lions out there.
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No updates on Mapoza for a while now, at what point does it become a concern? At the very least he’s gone into full hiding and survival mode now and who can really blame him. 

Will be interesting to see how these young Monwana Males develop over the next years. So far the ‘Monwana’ name hasn’t been the most lucky for producing successful male lions, with the Trilogy son and one of Black Dam sons killed and the remaining brother left with that awful injury for so long.
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