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The Tumbela Coalition

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(06-23-2022, 06:54 PM)Tonpa Wrote: I saw that in the Lion Sightings fb post they mentioned the two missing brothers were killed in "human-wildlife conflict".

Any further info of that?
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(06-23-2022, 07:55 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(06-23-2022, 06:54 PM)Tonpa Wrote: I saw that in the Lion Sightings fb post they mentioned the two missing brothers were killed in "human-wildlife conflict".

Any further info of that?

The “Story” as I recall hearing from a source is that the nomadic Nharu 5 entered an area in Kruger and were poisoned.  As if they ate some sort of contaminated carcass.   I pressed for details or more evidence but it never came.   I had seen screen capture conversations between several parties discussing situation back and forth.   I never like speaking of these things cause it just ultimately just feeds anxiety and rage.   But I do believe there is an anthropogenic component to the demise of the two lost brothers.   Just not certain of full 100 of the details.  

WRT the genetic disposition of these nharu boys, it’s strange.   I mean, seems it’s just the Sizanani  boys (scar, limper and Lambile)

The girls from all I see have been healthy and thriving.  Both with Nharu or Mbiri.
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Anyone knows which part of the Kruger were the Nharu males often seen? 
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(06-23-2022, 04:26 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: Limper died yesterday, RIP
Pics by cal butler, Ben, african journey

I'll miss Limper.  He had some days where he looked very healthy and I was hoping that he'd level out.  
At least he had great times with the pride eating and lounging around with the cubs.  He went where he wanted when he wanted for a while and patrolled with Skorro. 
He realized a male lion's dream for a while.
But his life was on the clock.
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I dont think there needs to be a special reason behind the Tumbellas demise. Nomadic life is though and lots if not most young coalitions dont make it. They succomb to wounds, are unable to find enough food orcare snuffed out by other lions.

If anything they were lucky to run into a pretty much unprotected pride. But even then it was not enough for two to recover enough to survive the competive nature of feeding.
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(06-23-2022, 04:28 PM)Tonpa Wrote:
(06-23-2022, 04:26 PM)Brahimlegend Wrote: Limper died yesterday, RIP
Pics by cal butler, Ben, african journey

Do you if he died as a result of his illness or did they put him down?

Sad news. How old was Limper?
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(06-23-2022, 10:06 PM)afortich Wrote: Sad news. How old was Limper?
Only 6 years old. He was born in 2016.
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A throwback to healthier days, Limper and the Hippo
by Keith Jenkinson 

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(06-23-2022, 09:24 PM)lionuk Wrote: Anyone knows which part of the Kruger were the Nharu males often seen? 

East of Manyeleti, around Mluwati Concession.
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(06-23-2022, 10:02 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: I dont think there needs to be a special reason behind the Tumbellas demise. Nomadic life is though and lots if not most young coalitions dont make it. They succomb to wounds, are unable to find enough food orcare snuffed out by other lions.

If anything they were lucky to run into a pretty much unprotected pride. But even then it was not enough for two to recover enough to survive the competive nature of feeding.

Thats true, but regardless of harshness of nomadic life, Scar and Limper would recover after that if they where healthy, like their brother Skorro Jr, who was also nomad with them, and now looks fantastic and in top condition.

Scar and Limper had disease, tough nomadic life prob only got it worse, and disease took its tool sooner.
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( This post was last modified: 06-24-2022, 08:57 AM by 1999gc8 )

I think it's quite sad when you hear of male lions like Limper who die from illness or injuries of some sort. They can have such a brutal life from just trying to survive against other lions or injuries. At least he got to experience life as a pride male before he died. I wonder if the altercation with Nhena and NK male was to much for his health issues at the time and not able to recover from any injuries he suffered from it. Tough job ahead for Skorro Jnr. At least he's in good health to have a fighting chance against any lion as long as it's 1 v 1.
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Human wildlife conflict happened when they were nomadic and people would get updates about them regulary seen with the last giraffe male and then he died and they were seen after a while always doing well feeding on large game. And then manyeleti guys said the 5 Nharu crossed a fence and were killed. There was no sign of them for like 7 months or so and then 3 males turned up in the West
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a confirmation from Dulini


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"The Dark-Maned Tumbela has lost his coalition partner!

In a dramatic turn in the lion dynamics, how will the now lone Tumbela be able to hold on to the Western Sector."

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(06-24-2022, 06:14 PM)Tonpa Wrote: "The Dark-Maned Tumbela has lost his coalition partner!

In a dramatic turn in the lion dynamics, how will the now lone Tumbela be able to hold on to the Western Sector."


For now, Nhena and the Nkuhuma male are an added buffer in the gap between his pride and the PC males.
It seems that all the pride males in the area have or are going to have cubs which may satisfy them for months.
And perhaps a lone male will get through someday who Skorro Jr. will accept as a partner.
Stranger things have happened.
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