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The Mighty Mapogos

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(05-26-2022, 02:11 AM)Mapokser Wrote: In 2008 a ranger said there were talks all over SS to move or kill some of the Mapogos, but such decision could only be made by the higher ups from the KNP


Is this hearsay and speculation or were  there  official discussions that were being had?
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The Men who touched the mighty Mapogos (John Varty, Willem Botha, Kim Wolhuter)



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Amazing Makhulu's Roaring
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( This post was last modified: 05-27-2022, 07:01 AM by Mapokser )

(05-26-2022, 11:24 AM)BigLion39 Wrote:
(05-26-2022, 02:11 AM)Mapokser Wrote: In 2008 a ranger said there were talks all over SS to move or kill some of the Mapogos, but such decision could only be made by the higher ups from the KNP


Is this hearsay and speculation or were  there  official discussions that were being had?

Official stuff. It has been posted here already, everybody in the SS was pissed because the Mapogos were wrecking other lions and they wanted to move or shoot some of them, here the important part:

It would appear that the Mapogos are not interested in travelling further north into the Manyaleti … so for the moment the Kahuma cubs are safe, WE just don’t get to see them.

There is little that can be done about these thugs. it has always been policy not to get involved in the natural progression of these things. However, there is now a lot of talk all over the Sands. Some have spoken of moving some of the Mapogos to another reserve or even shooting some of them. Everyone is angry, but decisions like this are highly unlikely and could only be taken by officials at the Kruger National Park, but it certainly shows the emotions these 6 big lions are bringing out.


The full article: https://wildearth.tv/2008/01/the-mapogos...k-in-town/
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Screenshots from ALukgan's youtube videos showing the bulky Makhulu in his prime:


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Steaming Breath! I've always wondered how lions do so much steam in a hot climate like Africa, the same way humans do in winter!
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Hello. im kind of new here, I saw the documentary today and it was really sad to see how they lost the battel. 
I have 1 question. Is there ANY chance that makulu or pretty boy is still alive?
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(05-28-2022, 03:27 PM)Gabriele Wrote:




Steaming Breath! I've always wondered how lions do so much steam in a hot climate like Africa, the same way humans do in winter!
Is there any chance that makulu or pretty boy is still alive? Just saw the documentary and it was really heart breaking
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(06-03-2022, 04:57 PM)landvere Wrote: Is there any chance that makulu or pretty boy is still alive?
No, their time is long gone. Makhulu was ast seen being alone and in 2013 so... quite some time ago.
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(06-04-2022, 02:27 PM)Dirkl Wrote: Two brothers patroling together always, but one night one was left alone and was attacked by 3 other lions. Where was his brother ? Ask rangers. It was recovering from dart. Later on darted brother was killed too and while he was still recovering from dart.
Please stop. Nobody was darted. That was a lie made up by uneducated fans in 2016. Nobody back in 2010 and/ 2012 ever thought this. It was only when they appeared on TV documentaries that all these "new fans" came out of the woodwork pretending to be experts. But really they understand anything about nature. 
Males dont always stay together 24/7 even when on patrol. 
Conspiracy theories and wild lion dynamics don't mix.
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(06-04-2022, 09:46 PM)Mabingilane Wrote: Please stop. Nobody was darted. That was a lie made up by uneducated fans in 2016. Nobody back in 2010 and/ 2012 ever thought this. It was only when they appeared on TV documentaries that all these "new fans" came out of the woodwork pretending to be experts. But really they understand anything about nature. 
Males dont always stay together 24/7 even when on patrol. 
Conspiracy theories and wild lion dynamics don't mix.

New profile, joined today, just to post this troll comments.
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(06-03-2022, 04:57 PM)landvere Wrote:
(05-28-2022, 03:27 PM)Gabriele Wrote:




Steaming Breath! I've always wondered how lions do so much steam in a hot climate like Africa, the same way humans do in winter!
Is there any chance that makulu or pretty boy is still alive? Just saw the documentary and it was really heart breaking

If I'm not mistaken they still have 5 old daughters. And if their daughters are old, you can imagine that if alive today, Makhulu would be a dinosaur. So no, 0 chances they're alive.
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Long before Kinky Tail and Mr. T were known as the Mlowathi coalition, there was another coalition of Mlowathi Males in 2000-2001, initially they were two, always accompanied by a young man, who later became part of the now 3-hour coalition. , and they were called in malamala reports: one with a dark mane, one light maned, the third with a mane still developing. They disappeared without a trace in October 2001, would probably have displaced West Street Males in no time, but their absence gave them another three years in which the future Mapogos could grow up and overcome vulnerable age. Anyone have any news about this unfortunate coalition of 20 years ago, has nothing been known about it?


https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-lions-of-sabi-sands?page=27

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Does anyone have a report or confirmed information about the clash of the Robson Males ( Stompie & One-Eye ) with the Mlowathi in 2010?

Here https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-coaliti...k?page=425 #6,362 says:

Stompie and 1eye left their natal pride and were now called the Robson males. On September 2006 they tried to take over the Styx pride after killing the pride cubs but failed.

Living as Nomads on the landscape between Sabi sands and Kruger, the Robson boys became great buffalo hunters. Over years they will stay the silent hunters and visitors of rival male areas, especially the Mapogos, but they avoided to confront them.

In mid 2010 they risked one last try to take-over the eastern parts of Sabi Sands. They were beaten and injured by Kinky Tail and Mr. T and they have been expelled into Kruger.

But I can't find any information on that.
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