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Luipaard Offline
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I don't know how tall those men are, but the hunter who shot the Ethiopian leopard appears to be tall imo but doesn't even manage to lift the leopard off the ground. The other two men seem average sized and obese.

And while the Ethiopian one looks impressive, it's nothing compared to an (estimated) 220lb leopard from DR Congo:


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(06-18-2019, 11:45 AM)Luipaard Wrote: And while the Ethiopian one looks impressive, it's nothing compared to an (estimated) 220lb leopard from DR Congo:


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Again,the whole point is that these positions create a false sense of size
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I think all would agree that this looks like a gigantic leopard, and he is. But he is a Zim. Male who weighed 82kg 

Or this one

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As you can see, none of these Leopard are small and there is no way to tell which is larger overall but the one fact about them is that none of them weighed more than 90kg and even after being baited. 
And while both the Ethopian and DR Congo males look impressive as well, they would most likely fall right into the exact same category as these Toms. 



Quote:I don't know how tall those men are, but the hunter who shot the Ethiopian leopard appears to be tall imo but doesn't even manage to lift the leopard off the ground. The other two men seem average sized and obese.
Their height is obviously unknown, so that isn't something we can debate, but the Ethopian Leopard's head definitely looks lower down on the man than the other two, the Ethiopian's legs are directly underneath it, like it's standing upright compared to the other 2 which have their legs out in front of their body which reduces height and last is that the other 2 both look a little bit more hefty than the Ethopian.
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(06-18-2019, 10:57 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(06-18-2019, 11:45 AM)Luipaard Wrote: And while the Ethiopian one looks impressive, it's nothing compared to an (estimated) 220lb leopard from DR Congo:


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Again,the whole point is that these positions create a false sense of size
For instance

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I think all would agree that this looks like a gigantic leopard, and he is. But he is a Zim. Male who weighed 82kg 

Or this one

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or

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As you can see, none of these Leopard are small and there is no way to tell which is larger overall but the one fact about them is that none of them weighed more than 90kg and even after being baited. 
And while both the Ethopian and DR Congo males look impressive as well, they would most likely fall right into the exact same category as these Toms. 



Quote:I don't know how tall those men are, but the hunter who shot the Ethiopian leopard appears to be tall imo but doesn't even manage to lift the leopard off the ground. The other two men seem average sized and obese.
Their height is obviously unknown, so that isn't something we can debate, but the Ethopian Leopard's head definitely looks lower down on the man than the other two, the Ethiopian's legs are directly underneath it, like it's standing upright compared to the other 2 which have their legs out in front of their body which reduces height and last is that the other 2 both look a little bit more hefty than the Ethopian.

In the first photo you clearly see how they put the leopard in such an angle it appears bigger than it really is. I don't like these pictures becouse they will try to exaggerate the size of their 'trophy'. So yeah, these positions do create a false sense of size. However, the DR Congo male isn't in a different angle, it's just in front of them. The man holding his tail kinda confirms that. And I can tell he's big just by looking at his skull and the fact he originates from Central Africa. 

I also don't believe in this 90kg barrier for leopards.
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Male bengal tiger & asiatic lion at Sakkarbaug Zoological Garden, Junagadh, Gujarat (largest collection of Asiatic lions in the world, since the last 50 years, more than 200 Asiatic lions have been sent to different zoos from here).

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(06-19-2019, 01:40 PM)Rishi Wrote: Male bengal tiger & asiatic lion at Sakkarbaug Zoological Garden, Junagadh, Gujarat (largest collection of Asiatic lions in the world, since the last 50 years, more than 200 Asiatic lions have been sent to different zoos from here).

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I tried to count bars from first two photos so, that starting from nose and then stop to place, where tail starts. These looks like to be approximately quite same sized individual. It would be nice to know if any measurements are known, but I guess not? I got result, that approximately 16 bar gaps when tail excluded, but not the easiest thing to be sure.
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(06-19-2019, 01:53 PM)Shadow Wrote: I tried to count bars from first two photos so, that starting from nose and then stop to place, where tail starts. These looks like to be approximately quite same sized individual. It would be nice to know if any measurements are known, but I guess not? I got result, that approximately 16 bar gaps when tail excluded, but not the easiest thing to be sure.

See the horizontal bars? You can an their a feel of their heights compared to that, that's it.

No measurements are available, the annual weigh-in like European zoos are not yet done in India.
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(06-19-2019, 02:11 PM)Rishi Wrote:
(06-19-2019, 01:53 PM)Shadow Wrote: I tried to count bars from first two photos so, that starting from nose and then stop to place, where tail starts. These looks like to be approximately quite same sized individual. It would be nice to know if any measurements are known, but I guess not? I got result, that approximately 16 bar gaps when tail excluded, but not the easiest thing to be sure.

See the horizontal bars? You can an their a feel of their heights compared to that, that's it.

No measurements are available, the annual weigh-in like European zoos are not yet done in India.

Yes height can be seen there in approximate way. I counted vertical bars too, it is very tricky and measurements would have been interesting to know just to see, that how good or bad estimation I made. But sometimes impossible to know :) Still I think, that these two looked like to be quite same sized, what comes to body height and length, when making rough estimation. Nice to see photos like this, which actually gives some opportunity to compare against same background.
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(06-19-2019, 02:20 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(06-19-2019, 02:11 PM)Rishi Wrote:
(06-19-2019, 01:53 PM)Shadow Wrote: I tried to count bars from first two photos so, that starting from nose and then stop to place, where tail starts. These looks like to be approximately quite same sized individual. It would be nice to know if any measurements are known, but I guess not? I got result, that approximately 16 bar gaps when tail excluded, but not the easiest thing to be sure.

See the horizontal bars? You can an their a feel of their heights compared to that, that's it.

No measurements are available, the annual weigh-in like European zoos are not yet done in India.

Yes height can be seen there in approximate way. I counted vertical bars too, it is very tricky and measurements would have been interesting to know just to see, that how good or bad estimation I made. But sometimes impossible to know :) Still I think, that these two looked like to be quite same sized, what comes to body height and length, when making rough estimation. Nice to see photos like this, which actually gives some opportunity to compare against same background.

I think these are atleast 2-3 seperate individuals of both species.. i paired them by posture though.

Lioness & tigress. 

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(06-19-2019, 03:06 PM)Rishi Wrote:
(06-19-2019, 02:20 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(06-19-2019, 02:11 PM)Rishi Wrote:
(06-19-2019, 01:53 PM)Shadow Wrote: I tried to count bars from first two photos so, that starting from nose and then stop to place, where tail starts. These looks like to be approximately quite same sized individual. It would be nice to know if any measurements are known, but I guess not? I got result, that approximately 16 bar gaps when tail excluded, but not the easiest thing to be sure.

See the horizontal bars? You can an their a feel of their heights compared to that, that's it.

No measurements are available, the annual weigh-in like European zoos are not yet done in India.

Yes height can be seen there in approximate way. I counted vertical bars too, it is very tricky and measurements would have been interesting to know just to see, that how good or bad estimation I made. But sometimes impossible to know :) Still I think, that these two looked like to be quite same sized, what comes to body height and length, when making rough estimation. Nice to see photos like this, which actually gives some opportunity to compare against same background.

I think these are atleast 2-3 seperate individuals of both species.. i paired them by posture though.

Lioness & tigress. 

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Heh, I had to look a bit closer and make rough lines to show what kind of effect perspective has. Quickly and roughly done, but when looking at height of these two, quite close call.

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Adult african lion on the left, Liger in the middle, American Lion on the right, Bobcat for scale. 

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(The Liger skull is 17.5 inches long, the American Lion is 19 inches long) Which length wise, they’re similar, but height of the skulls and general build is quite a bit different. Noticeably, fabulous large cheekbones. 


This Liger skull was listed on ebay as “VERY ENORMOUS LIGER SKULL REPLICA” so it’s also safe to say this specimen might be a bit of an outlier. That being said how does it compare to other animals?

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Liger v 18 ft alligator skull, they’re the same length. (the alligator might have ¼th of an inch on it) 



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Liger V Zebra - the skull of the zebra is deceptive and slopes up but they’re also the same size. 

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Liger V Leopard

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(06-19-2019, 04:31 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(06-19-2019, 03:06 PM)Rishi Wrote: I think these are atleast 2-3 seperate individuals of both species.. i paired them by posture though.

Lioness & tigress. 

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Heh, I had to look a bit closer and make rough lines to show what kind of effect perspective has. Quickly and roughly done, but when looking at height of these two, quite close call.

Another lioness and tigresses.

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...compared to the bigger male lion.

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Smaller lion & lioness. ©Ramaram Choudhary

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Younger male tiger & above lion.

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Young lion & a big tigress.
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(Probably) young female lion & first male tiger.

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Huge Black Jaguar hunted, unknown location but Most likely Brazil based off the Uniform. 


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Captive jaguar and snow leopard





Huge male caracal and cape leopardess:


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Another caracal and male cape leopard


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Picture on top: Choti Tara male cub (L) and Matka.
Picture below: Matka (L) and Maya male cub ||| Gentle soul, tough spirit and an unrelenting attitude, welcome Matka the Clever, an absolute legend by all means. The series of events I was fortunate enough to witness in the weeks post monsoon have made my respect grow immensely for Matka. Below are his cubs, the one on the top with Choti Tara and the other one with Maya. Dear reader, if you’re still with me, read on! Choti Tara’s male cubs, after separating from their mother as the monsoon rains lashed upon Tadoba, have started infiltrating into Maya’s territory and thus putting her cubs in grave danger, as tigers fight to kill. Had it not been for Matka’s timely intervention on both sides, things would have been vastly different in Tadoba today! As Maya and cubs went into hiding in the great woods behind the Tadoba lake, a difficult area to traverse in but which she knows better than anyone else, Matka met with Choti Tara’s cubs just a few paces away from where Maya’s cubs were kept hidden, gentle but strong, and (i believe) told them to take it easy, that he was still the one dictating the affairs here! While one of Choti Tara’s cub went into the buffers behind Katezari immediately after this meeting, the other one continues to loiter around the Tadoba lake, albeit subdued and maintaining a low profile. Two days later, Matka personally escorted Maya and her cubs back to Pandharpauni, which is where she’s always felt most at home, and comforted her male cub (who was at much greater a risk than his sister). Playing the role of a gentle father on one side and a strong and affirmative one on the other, he has ensued that peace prevails upon the land! Matka has been an exemplary father and a partner 
Photographer :@mihirwildmahajan
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(07-10-2019, 06:07 PM)epaiva Wrote: It is a Jaguar for sure, not a big one it was a young Jaguar or a small female. Ocelots weight up to 16 kilograms it was not a Ocelot. It was filmed in the Amazon of Brazil where Jaguars don't grow much normally weighting under 60  kilograms. It was a big Black Caiman at least 4 meters long


What...?

Jaguars in Brazil are the largest in the world. 60kgs are the size of jaguars that live in Mexico and Central America. Jaguars in Brazil can reach 250+ lbs. Look at the guys boots. If that is an adult female jaguar that man has the largest feet in the fucking world.
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