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So gingerella wasn’t allowed back into the pride bc they already had new cubs right? How would her returning to the pride be negative for the cubs or was it something else?
(03-27-2023, 12:49 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So gingerella wasn’t allowed back into the pride bc they already had new cubs right? How would her returning to the pride be negative for the cubs or was it something else?
While I seriously doubt she would have done anything to the cubs, lionesses are extremely defensive when it comes to them and unfortunately a fair amount of time passed from when she had to leave with her bothers when the Tumbela coalition took over and when she tried making contact with the pride again. By that time the pride lionesses more than likely saw her as a stranger/threat to the new cubs and drove her off. Perhaps if they didn't have new cubs they may have been more accepting of her return, but when cubs are involved all bets are off.
(03-27-2023, 12:49 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So gingerella wasn’t allowed back into the pride bc they already had new cubs right? How would her returning to the pride be negative for the cubs or was it something else?
Cubs and time are just some of the factors, another was Tumbelas, even if Othawas accepted her, Tumbelas would not, as she was too young for mating.
(03-27-2023, 12:49 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So gingerella wasn’t allowed back into the pride bc they already had new cubs right? How would her returning to the pride be negative for the cubs or was it something else?
Cubs and time are just some of the factors, another was Tumbelas, even if Othawas accepted her, Tumbelas would not, as she was too young for mating.
(03-27-2023, 12:49 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So gingerella wasn’t allowed back into the pride bc they already had new cubs right? How would her returning to the pride be negative for the cubs or was it something else?
While I seriously doubt she would have done anything to the cubs, lionesses are extremely defensive when it comes to them and unfortunately a fair amount of time passed from when she had to leave with her bothers when the Tumbela coalition took over and when she tried making contact with the pride again. By that time the pride lionesses more than likely saw her as a stranger/threat to the new cubs and drove her off. Perhaps if they didn't have new cubs they may have been more accepting of her return, but when cubs are involved all bets are off.
@Tr1x24 do you know if the last sighting of any of the males that left with Gingerella was of the male that returned with her to the west? And if then when was that?
(03-27-2023, 01:29 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: How long was she away?
Around 10 months. The Tumbelas took over the pride in October 2020 and that's when she left along with her brothers and Othawa Junior. Initially Sassy also joined them until December 2020. Fast forward, she returned to the west in August 2021 when one of her brothers after a spell in Kruger.