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(05-28-2023, 04:54 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: Now that there are only 2 remaining, its gonna be quite hard for them to stay in power.
Why? They are in same situation as any other duo in SS ( PC males, Gijimas, BDMs, S.Avocas).
I guess it’s a confidence thing they are used to 3 now only 2… if the black dam males hear only 2 roars they may come and try to challenge before they knew there was 3 dominant males same with the gijima males and plains camp they all know a larger coalition rules the central sabi sands and they’ve all mostly stayed away but those 3 coalitions are younger and now more confident plains camp gijima black dams any one of those duos sense weakness of get a feelings that large coalition is no more they MIGHT make a move
Not that long ago they were a group of four and now they are suddenly brought down to 2 in the span of a few peacefull months.
For a coalition that used to coast on numbers it means they have to reinvent themselves to function as a duo in a far more competing enviroment. Learning new fighting or hunting strategies and such. With a blow to confidence as a result.
Offcource some coalitions adjust faster than others and this period can be long or short depending on the dynamics before the decline. But while in this period they would be in a mayor disadvantage compared to experienced and confident duo coalitions.
Still, the chance of anything happening is so low, I doubt we will see anything happens. Most lions have their own stuff to worry about rather than the wellbeing of their neighbors. So is not like they are constantly waiting for a perfect opportunity to strike or something.
Amahle and eorenji are used too work together...there's nothing new beside the fact there no more 3 roars.
Let's not act like Ubuso and Gore were able to keep up with them when they were alive it's has always been Amahle and Eorenji who were doing most of the work.
Nothing will change.
How did they coast on numbers when 2/4 were unhealthy and that the whole coalition has always depended on the two healthy brothers ????
(05-28-2023, 02:21 PM)WildRev Wrote: Amahle and eorenji are used too work together...there's nothing new beside the fact there no more 3 roars.
Let's not act like Ubuso and Gore were able to keep up with them when they were alive it's has always been Amahle and Eorenji who were doing most of the work.
Nothing will change.
How did they coast on numbers when 2/4 were unhealthy and that the whole coalition has always depended on the two healthy brothers ????
Exactly, for a while now, Amahle and OE where doing most if not all of "dirty" work.
Yes, WN and Gore lately did participate in patrols and roars, but when it comes to actual clashes ( Gijimas, BDM's) it was those 2, as these 2 couldnt keep up in high tempo scenarios.
(05-28-2023, 02:21 PM)WildRev Wrote: Amahle and eorenji are used too work together...there's nothing new beside the fact there no more 3 roars.
Let's not act like Ubuso and Gore were able to keep up with them when they were alive it's has always been Amahle and Eorenji who were doing most of the work.
Nothing will change.
How did they coast on numbers when 2/4 were unhealthy and that the whole coalition has always depended on the two healthy brothers ????
Nobody challenged that coalition of 4 tho only ones was the gijima males and they may or may not have lost a member when they attacked uboso and it was the gijima that basically killed uboso black dams caught amahle once I believe they said gore was present but he ran so it’s not gonna be a walk in the park for them they always had numbers but no the odds are even
Even for large coalitions, death has consequences and leaves an impact on those that survive.
We shouldn't count out Gore or Ubuso just because they were weaker. They were still seen as valuable members of their coalition or an extra risk to the competition.
The group is going to need some time to rebound from this. Its not going to be business as usual.
But like I said, This period does not need to be long or lead to issues.
05-28-2023, 11:38 PM( This post was last modified: 05-28-2023, 11:43 PM by Mdz123 )
(05-28-2023, 11:02 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(05-28-2023, 04:54 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: Now that there are only 2 remaining, its gonna be quite hard for them to stay in power.
Why? They are in same situation as any other duo in SS ( PC males, Gijimas, BDMs, S.Avocas).
(05-28-2023, 06:43 AM)sik94 Wrote:
(05-28-2023, 04:54 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: Very sad to see that another N'was male has gone, RIP Gore. Now that there are only 2 remaining, its gonna be quite hard for them to stay in power. The future of Kambulas and their dozens of new cubs is shaky
I don't think it'll be too hard for them to stay in power. SS is full of duos currently, a new bigger threat needs to come through which I don't see happening soon(except Nkhulus ofc but they might never get to MalaMala like the Mantimahles a few years ago).
I will clarify that its In case the Nkuhlus decide to settle in their territory, or the Nkuhumas YMs decide the venture south
(05-28-2023, 02:21 PM)WildRev Wrote: Amahle and eorenji are used too work together...there's nothing new beside the fact there no more 3 roars.
Let's not act like Ubuso and Gore were able to keep up with them when they were alive it's has always been Amahle and Eorenji who were doing most of the work.
Nothing will change.
How did they coast on numbers when 2/4 were unhealthy and that the whole coalition has always depended on the two healthy brothers ????
Nobody challenged that coalition of 4 tho only ones was the gijima males and they may or may not have lost a member when they attacked uboso and it was the gijima that basically killed uboso black dams caught amahle once I believe they said gore was present but he ran so it’s not gonna be a walk in the park for them they always had numbers but no the odds are even
How did they kill Ubuso when he lived months After the attack ? Illness killed him.
Amahle was caught alone so what ?things like that happen, maybe the nwas will caught a BDM alone.
Nobody said it's gonna be a walk in the park but it's not the end of the world for them.
05-29-2023, 02:12 AM( This post was last modified: 05-29-2023, 02:45 AM by afortich )
(05-28-2023, 04:54 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: Very sad to see that another N'was male has gone, RIP Gore. Now that there are only 2 remaining, its gonna be quite hard for them to stay in power. The future of Kambulas and their dozens of new cubs is shaky
I agree with u bro because now they may be vulnerable if protecting against coalition greater than 2 members.
Reduction in number is clear a reduction on potential power.
05-29-2023, 03:09 AM( This post was last modified: 05-29-2023, 07:10 AM by afortich )
(05-29-2023, 03:03 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: People like to discredit Ndhzengas, while they are in the same situation as any other coalition in SS atm.
Gijimas and S.Avocas are in far worse situation because of Nkhulus.
Is not discrediting the Nhzengas because I believe Gijimas and S. Avocas face the same potential issue too.
Once one of these coalitions of 4 or more gets confident enough and if they stay together, it could be catastrophic for any of those coalitions of 2 members and even worse for solo males.
05-29-2023, 03:25 AM( This post was last modified: 05-29-2023, 03:27 AM by WildRev )
(05-29-2023, 02:03 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: His illness is the direct result of that particular clash with the Gijimas. So they get the credit for the kill.
He was already ill when he entered sabi sands, the fight weakened him furthermore but the illness killed him, not the gijima.
It's just funny how when Gore was alive some people here were saying he's weak, he couldn't fight because of his injurie, he wasn't confident etc but now that he's dead it's a big blow to the coalition like he was a heavy fighter, patrolling scent parking etc.
No disrespect to Gore (who was an unique lion) and even Ubuso (who managed to survive a 1vs3), surviving in the wild with their condition was amazing but they wouldn't have survived that long without Amahle and Eorenji let alone be dominant males over multiple prides.
Ubuso and Gore main purpose in the coalition were the roars, Amahle and Eorenji will do tomorrow what they were doing months ago, like I said nothing is going to change, we're not going to see them disorganized like some people here would like to see, they're still going to patrol, roar, scent mark, sleep, seek new females like they have always been doing.
