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Do you think guys Nguvu could be the father of newest litter of Mhangeni? I think (maybe exept Nhehna) BBoys totally stick to Kambula pride when Nguvu is with Mhungeni females ever since he was forced to leave Ottawa pride. Ever since BBoys dominated Kambulas I didn't see any raports of interaction between BBoys and Mhungenis at all. Did I miss somethink?
(11-24-2018, 10:23 PM)Potato Wrote: Do you think guys Nguvu could be the father of newest litter of Mhangeni? I think (maybe exept Nhehna) BBoys totally stick to Kambula pride when Nguvu is with Mhungeni females ever since he was forced to leave Ottawa pride. Ever since BBoys dominated Kambulas I didn't see any raports of interaction between BBoys and Mhungenis at all. Did I miss somethink?
Younger cubs are atleast 2 month old + gestation period of 3.5 months...
Totally 5.5 months...
Then it is BBoys
Othawa male in the dry Manyalethi River in Londolozi, October 2018
photo by Anthony Goldman
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Photo by S. Barker, Singita Sabi Sand, 11.25.2018
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In january of 2015 the first cubs of Majingilane males with Othawa pride were born. Nguvu(Othawa young male aka Othawa young prince) was one of these little ones.
video by Hugo Breed wildtography
(01-06-2019, 11:08 PM)jordi6927 Wrote: Can anyone guess as to why the Tsalala males still havent taken over a pride yet?
I don't think they got the chance to dominate a pride and in any event they were too young and in-experienced to hold on to one. In their most recent altercation they were chased out by the two Avocas in the south. That was six months ago and I think now they can mount a serious challenge. They still don't stand a chance against B-Boys or even the Charleston's but may be they can challenge an older or smaller coalition. I do hope that for the sake of genetic diversity they stay out of SS.
(01-06-2019, 11:08 PM)jordi6927 Wrote: Can anyone guess as to why the Tsalala males still havent taken over a pride yet?
I don't think they got the chance to dominate a pride and in any event they were too young and in-experienced to hold on to one. In their most recent altercation they were chased out by the two Avocas in the south. That was six months ago and I think now they can mount a serious challenge. They still don't stand a chance against B-Boys or even the Charleston's but may be they can challenge an older or smaller coalition. I do hope that for the sake of genetic diversity they stay out of SS.
I honestly didnt even take into account genetic diversity ... but I guess it might be best for them to move out a little ... they seem to be successful hunters / scavengers so I dont think they will have a problem finding food and gaining more size to push around ... I think they get stressed out with all the traveling they do ... hopefully they will settle down in a place with a pride or two where we can occasionally get some photos of them.
(01-06-2019, 11:08 PM)jordi6927 Wrote: Can anyone guess as to why the Tsalala males still havent taken over a pride yet?
I don't think they got the chance to dominate a pride and in any event they were too young and in-experienced to hold on to one. In their most recent altercation they were chased out by the two Avocas in the south. That was six months ago and I think now they can mount a serious challenge. They still don't stand a chance against B-Boys or even the Charleston's but may be they can challenge an older or smaller coalition. I do hope that for the sake of genetic diversity they stay out of SS.
I honestly didnt even take into account genetic diversity ... but I guess it might be best for them to move out a little ... they seem to be successful hunters / scavengers so I dont think they will have a problem finding food and gaining more size to push around ... I think they get stressed out with all the traveling they do ... hopefully they will settle down in a place with a pride or two where we can occasionally get some photos of them.
Given the geography of this particular section (or of any cul-de-sac) there is a strong possibility of a genetic bottle neck or sub-prime situations developing. Right now we have very old males in Matimbas and before that the Majings in the West who have a hard time hunting and end up taking resources away from cubs and the pride. I saw some reports of the older Othawa cubs dying from starvation. On the other hand, we have a very young and immature male in Othawa who won't be able to protect the cubs should any threat materialize. I am not sure how common this is/was but this looks untenable in the long run. It would probably be better if a new and unrelated coalition made it's way to the West though geography makes that hard.
Majingilane Coalition Male Lineage
