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Lions of Sabi Sands

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The Sand River young males  spotted on the tar road, 1.5km from Kruger Gate entrance today.  
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(12-28-2020, 10:01 PM)Potato Wrote: One of the Tumbela males and Othawa Female this morning in the Dulini Private Game Reserve.   The 3 Tumbelas have been mating with the female for the last few days.


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Now it's Scar-eyed Tumbela that gets to make the mating rounds with Junior's mom.... Wow, that old girl, she's aging quickly now.  Hope she can possibly raise another litter....we'll see.  If she's 13 this month or in January, any cubs she has won't even be 2 by the time she's 15.  If she'll ever have more cubs, hope she has them asap!
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We have been seeing the Mangheni pride a lot more frequently of late, and long may it last.

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The impressive Othawa male laps up water after what was probably a night of walking great distances.
As a guide you sometimes try and tick all the boxes when it comes to viewing lions; most guests are as desperate to see a male lion, then a pride of females and then if one is lucky, cubs too. Currently the Mhangeni pride ticks every box and so much more.

They are a pride made up of adult lionesses, their cubs, and more often than not with the Othawa male in tow. Unlike the Nstevu pride it is not very often you see this pride split up, so if you set off in the morning and find fresh tracks, the excitement boils as you get hopeful to track and find the full complement.
One particular morning recently, James Tyrrell and I did just that.


There had been tracks quite far south and west on Londolozi the previous evening, but no one had found the lions.
We set off checking our boundary and bumped into a member of the Anti-poaching unit, who told us he had seen the lions cross out of Londolozi at about 2 am. Our expressions were gloomy after hearing this news, but we decided to just double check the area anyway; maybe the lions had looped back.
Suddenly in the distance, an unmistakable golden, orange and black mane stood out: the Ottawa male lying in the open!
After a few too many high fives between James and I, we were thrilled to be able to sit and spend time with this pride.
Having clearly been resting through the early morning hours, one lioness started to make her way to a nearby pan, followed by the three cubs who took quite a while to get there as they were constantly playing. Soon having lost sight of the mother, they decided to contact call as well.
It was only 10 minutes in and we had cubs playing, a walk-by from an impressive mother lioness and calls back and forth. The rest of the pride followed suit and as predicted, so did the Ottawa male. Having quickly looped around a termite mound, to the nearest pan, we watched each lion lap up water one after another, in a pan that provided one of, if not the best reflections I’ve seen in awhile.



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Seeing animals drink is honestly one of the best sightings, let alone a full pride of Lions. The cubs then provided quite the amount of humour while play fighting in the mud.

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[i]Two of the three cubs play tussle it out after having failed to be entertained by the Ottawa male.[/i]
[i]It was getting really hot but we actually didn’t notice as we were encapsulated by everything happening around us. without realising it we were actually providing the perfect shady spot next to our vehicle, in which the pride all soon came and lay in. At the time I was videoing when one female decided to make her way right next to us. I was holding my breathe for sure but at the same time grinning ear to ear by how relaxed the lions were and the incredible sighting I was witnessing, on what can only be described as a quintessential African safari morning.

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[i][i]The youngest cub of the Mhangeni pride playing with a log while the rest of the lions sleep in the morning light.

I am hoping this post does not jinx us seeing more and more of this pride, but I think we have lots more viewing to come.
The Othawa male is quite frankly one the the most impressive male lions I have seen and with the Birmingham males ageing, he could be here to stay. Your guess is as good as mine as to what’s going to unfold but I’m as excited as you to find out.

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(12-29-2020, 06:52 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: Now it's Scar-eyed Tumbela that gets to make the mating rounds with Junior's mom.... Wow, that old girl, she's aging quickly now.  Hope she can possibly raise another litter....we'll see.  If she's 13 this month or in January, any cubs she has won't even be 2 by the time she's 15.  If she'll ever have more cubs, hope she has them asap!

She doesnt need to neccesary raise those cubs, she needs to give birth, Ssasy and her daughter can raise them if she pass away..
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S. Avocas and Sand River pride :







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(12-29-2020, 03:04 AM)Slayerd Wrote:
(12-29-2020, 02:07 AM)Potato Wrote:
(12-29-2020, 01:07 AM)Slayerd Wrote: Do you pick up a little resemblance? Could Ndunha's father be Nhenhas grandfather? If we are right to assume the Skybed Males sired Ndunha, then perhaps Nhenhas mother was sired by the father of Ndunha.

They came from different prides and are sired by different coalitions.

Did you misunderstand what I wrote? Ndunha was said to be sired by the Skybed Males to the Lamula female. The Skybed Males also sired the Birmingham Pride cubs which are the Matimbas and Birmingham Females. It's possible that the father of Ndunha also sired Nhenhas mother making Nhenha, a nephew of Ndunha. For eg. Princess Tsalala and the Torchwood Young Male have somewhat of a resemblance if you look closely. Both are sired by Nhenha. If Princess Tsalala has a son who resembles the Torchwood Young Male, it would be because Nhenha is his grandfather.

If Nduna is sired by Skybeds as that is only a presumption and if the same Skybed male that sired Nduna sired Nhenha's mother than they can be related. It is too much "if" for me tho to call it likely option.
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The Styx and Nkuhuma male on the move throughout Londolozi Private Game Reserve in Sabi Sands Game Reserve
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Idk if it was posted already, but on this video ranger hints that he thinks that Scar Tumbela has TB, and with another male having bad limp (possibly also TB) , thats a not good sign for this up and coming coalition..:





Althrough they can live with that to an old age, their ability to defend this territory and cubs in future , with only 1 healthy male, is very questionable..
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(09-18-2020, 03:27 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: One of the Matimba males "Hairy Belly" taken in the Manyeleti-Sabi Sands in 2011/2012
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One of the most handsome close-ups of a young King HB.  His tuft of mane on top of his head looks similar to the young Torchwood Male's!  They could be grandfather and grandson....  The Southern Matimbas had several daughters in the Torchwood Pride, along with sons now in Kruger with prides of their own.
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Scar Tumbela male:

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(12-30-2020, 05:35 PM)Cath2020 Wrote:
(09-18-2020, 03:27 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: One of the Matimba males "Hairy Belly" taken in the Manyeleti-Sabi Sands in 2011/2012
Photo credit to: Drizzle Jordaan.
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One of the most handsome close-ups of a young King HB.  His tuft of mane on top of his head looks similar to the young Torchwood Male's!  They could be grandfather and grandson....  The Southern Matimbas had several daughters in the Torchwood Pride, along with sons now in Kruger with prides of their own.

How many sons did the Southern Matimbas sire who are now pride males, besides Hairy Belly Torchwood male?
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(12-30-2020, 08:07 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(12-30-2020, 05:35 PM)Cath2020 Wrote:
(09-18-2020, 03:27 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: One of the Matimba males "Hairy Belly" taken in the Manyeleti-Sabi Sands in 2011/2012
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One of the most handsome close-ups of a young King HB.  His tuft of mane on top of his head looks similar to the young Torchwood Male's!  They could be grandfather and grandson....  The Southern Matimbas had several daughters in the Torchwood Pride, along with sons now in Kruger with prides of their own.

How many sons did the Southern Matimbas sire who are now pride males, besides Hairy Belly Torchwood male?

None if you mean particularly Southern Matimbas. Talamati male which formed a coalition with Mhangeni males and one of Nsemani males could be sired by them, but could have been as well sired by any other Matimba as by the time those males were born Matimbas were still coalition of 6.
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(12-30-2020, 03:45 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Idk if it was posted already, but on this video ranger hints that he thinks that Scar Tumbela has TB, and with another male having bad limp (possibly also TB) , thats a not good sign for this up and coming coalition..:





Althrough they can live with that to an old age, their ability to defend this territory and cubs in future , with only 1 healthy male, is very questionable..

Two healthy males right? I know one male had a paw injury but based on this video he seems to be walking fine already.
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(12-30-2020, 08:44 PM)Gijima Wrote:
(12-30-2020, 03:45 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Idk if it was posted already, but on this video ranger hints that he thinks that Scar Tumbela has TB, and with another male having bad limp (possibly also TB) , thats a not good sign for this up and coming coalition..:





Althrough they can live with that to an old age, their ability to defend this territory and cubs in future , with only 1 healthy male, is very questionable..

Two healthy males right? I know one male had a paw injury but based on this video he seems to be walking fine already.

Skorro Junior looks very good at the moment, but the other 2 seems to be in significantly worst condition, much thiner and with one of them having limp.
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(12-30-2020, 08:41 PM)Potato Wrote:
(12-30-2020, 08:07 PM)Rabubi Wrote:
(12-30-2020, 05:35 PM)Cath2020 Wrote:
(09-18-2020, 03:27 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: One of the Matimba males "Hairy Belly" taken in the Manyeleti-Sabi Sands in 2011/2012
Photo credit to: Drizzle Jordaan.
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One of the most handsome close-ups of a young King HB.  His tuft of mane on top of his head looks similar to the young Torchwood Male's!  They could be grandfather and grandson....  The Southern Matimbas had several daughters in the Torchwood Pride, along with sons now in Kruger with prides of their own.

How many sons did the Southern Matimbas sire who are now pride males, besides Hairy Belly Torchwood male?

None if you mean particularly Southern Matimbas. Talamati male which formed a coalition with Mhangeni males and one of Nsemani males could be sired by them, but could have been as well sired by any other Matimba as by the time those males were born Matimbas were still coalition of 6.

Thanks Potato
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