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Lions of Sabi Sands
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@Pbonz Othawa pride was fathered by Mapogos. As for the breakdown of all the Sabi Sands prides, unfortunately it requires individual research. If you google each pride and check their facebook page, in the About section you'll find some lineage info.
Couple of recent pics of the impressive northern Avoca boys. Image by Sabeeha & Reyhana Moolla, November 7, 2018  *This image is copyright of its original author Image by Asma Bava Ali at Djuma, November 6, 2018.  *This image is copyright of its original author
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Nkuhumas Pride 5 Adults (4 of them likely sired by Matimbas) + 6 sub-adults (1 male + 5 females) aged 28 - 30 months. Sub-adults sired by Bboys Adopted 3 Mhangeni sub-adult males (30 months - 36 months) and 1 to 3 talamati sub-adult males (3 to 4 years) Mhangenis were sired by Majingalanes, Talamatis were sired by Selati males Northern Avocas, coilation of 3 males are slowly coming into territory of them and may takeover in near future as Bboys abandoned and moved south Torchwood pride 7 Adults (Few of them likely sired by Matimbas) + 6 sub-adults ( 1 males + 6 females) aged 28 - 30 months. (Can someone confirm the count and age) Sub-adults sired by Bboys. Bboys abandoned and moved south. Styx Pride 3 Adults (The youngest one was sired by Majingalanes). 8 cubs/sub-adults aged 16-24 months. Cubs/sub-adults sired by Bboys Tsalala/Marthly pride 1 Adult female (Sired by Majingalanes) 3 of her littermates are males, currently nomadic seen around sabi sands often. Mhangeni Pride/Tsalala Breakaway Pride 4 Females, may be down to 3 Females reportedly. (Sired by Mapogos) + 2 Sub-adult females aged 2.5 years to 3 years (Sired by Majingalanes) + few cubs (may be 2 or 3 litters) aged around 2-4 months sired by Bboys Othawa Pride 3 Adults (2 sired by Mapogos, youngest sired by Majingalanes), 3 male cubs of around 7-9 month old sired by Majingalanes. Looks like the younger lioness also given birth (Cubs likely sired by Matimbas) Ximhungwe pride 2 Adult lioness (Sired by Selatis) Mhangeni Breakaway/Kambulas/Ntesvu pride 6 Adult females (Sired by Majinalanes) 13 cubs aged 1 -4 months sired by Bboys Sparta/Eyrefield pride 2 Adult females (younger one sired by Majingalanes) Fourways pride 2 Adult females (Younger one sired by Majinagalnes) + 4 sub-adults (2 male + 2 female) aged around 3 years, sired by Matshapiri males. Reportedly one unknown sub-adult male joined the pride. Selati/Southern pride Pride is scattered and looks like only 5 members left including Charleston sub-adult male I dont know much about Talamati Pride
MALAMALA TODAY: November 2nd - 5th. Cubs, cubs and more cubs. 13 lion sightings: We have been enjoying excellent sightings of the ‘hoard’ of cubs from the Kambula pride. 4 different litters, totaling 13 cubs, were seen consistently over last 4 days. We are unsure of what has happened to the 5th litter. Members of the Gowrie male coalition were viewed on 5 occasions and the Styx pride were seen once. Image by Fenella Ignatiev.
 *This image is copyright of its original author Image by Andrew Danckwerts.  *This image is copyright of its original author Awesome post @vinodkumarn
The lionesses is called amber-eyes and belongs to the Nkuhuma pride. She is there with a young Talamati male. We even watched them mating, or at least the young male tried to…Image by Yvonne K B at Djuma, November 7, 2018
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 (11-07-2018, 01:01 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote: @Pbonz Great info, but i think not all the Talamati males sub-adults were sired by Selatis, one of them is a Matimba offspring, the one who was not been accepted by the Nkuhumas.
The Infamous this young generation was sired by selatis males. The talamatis sired by matimbas were the older generation. 2 of them join a coalition with 3 mhangeni boys of the first generation and another became a lonely male. All of them went to kruger Park.
(11-07-2018, 01:01 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote: @Pbonz Ok a few follow up questions. All of these sub adults and cubs that were aired by older coalitions, how come guys like the bboys or matimbas who are in the area now never killed them or banished them from the prides? Will new coalitions kill sub adult females usually or just males ? Will the Avaco males start to kill the bboys cubs and subs soon? Thx (11-07-2018, 07:42 PM)Pbonz Wrote:(11-07-2018, 01:01 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote: @Pbonz
MALAMALA TODAY: November 6th&7th. 6 lion sightings: We just can’t get enough of these lion cubs! The recent wave of cubs born into the Kambula pride have kept us thoroughly entertained lately and that trend continued over the last 48hrs. Yesterday 3 lionesses with 8 of their cubs were feeding off a nyala kill in the Sand River north of West Street Bridge while a 4th lioness and her 5 cubs were viewed a tad further north at their den near Maxim’s Lookout. The latter were viewed at the same location today while the others were joined by 2 of the Gowrie males at West Street Bridge. Both males were viewed separately yesterday.
(11-07-2018, 05:08 PM)T Rabbit Wrote: The Infamous this young generation was sired by selatis males. The talamatis sired by matimbas were the older generation. 2 of them join a coalition with 3 mhangeni boys of the first generation and another became a lonely male. All of them went to kruger Park. Only 1 Talamati Male joined the 2 Mhangeni Boys and the other two stayed together. 1 Mhangeni Boy disappeared..probably killed by other males. I can't remember which coalition it was, maybe the charleston males.
Not sure if anyone saw, but Andbeyond Ngala posted lion cubs. One being white! I am confused by the Instagram post as it says Birmingham males but also said the previous white one was killed and this is a new coalition and well see if they keep these cubs.
Anyone have any insight to what happened and what’s happening now?  (11-08-2018, 03:38 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:(11-08-2018, 01:03 AM)Pbonz Wrote: Anyone have any insight to what happened and what’s happening now? Who are the dominant males? Bboys? And they killed the previous white one back in March?
Mhangeni lionesses and cubs seeking shade at Singita Sabi Sands. These cubs are both uncles/aunties and half siblings of the Kambula/Ntsevu cubs as their mothers are the mothers of the Kambulas, and their fathers are the same Birmingham Boys. Video by Chene Wailes-Bailey, November 7, 2018
Credits: James Tyrrell (Londolozi)
How Many Cubs Does the Ntsevu Pride Have? This is a tricky one, as the pride is split so often. The Sand River has essentially dried up for the time being, so animals previously dependant on the small trickle for water have been forced to disperse to get their liquid sustenance from a few pans and waterholes strewn about the reserve. It seems likely that the Ntsevu pride has started venturing further afield in order to follow their food sources. That’s the theory at least, and is exactly the same as the movements of the Sparta Pride from yesteryear; that pride spent the majority of their winter to the east of Londolozi in the Sand River, then during the rainy season when water was everywhere they would disperse more and spend the majority of their time on Londolozi’s central and western areas. The pride’s movements aside, a number of cubs have been seen on the reserve over the past few weeks, and we suspect that there may be substantially more than 10 all told. Maybe even as high as 15 by now. If that is the case, the pride is numbering over 20 individuals!  *This image is copyright of its original author The older cubs (6 of them, between two females) are closing in on 4 months. Then there are a reported 4 cubs (also between two females) still being kept in the Sand River to the east of Londolozi, but latest reports suggest there are only two. Whether the other two have been killed or are simply being hidden somewhere else we are not sure. A fifth lioness has given birth to 5 cubs, which isn’t common at all as the largest litters we generally see here are 4. These 5 are still very small and have only been seen on a few occasions.  *This image is copyright of its original author The sixth and final lioness has some question marks over her. She has been spending her time predominantly in the Sand River downstream from the Londolozi camps, by herself, although occasionally she is in company with one or more of the Birmingham males. A number of rangers have reported that she looks heavily pregnant. Isolating herself from the pride is also typical behaviour from a lioness about to give birth, and the Sand River holds a number of dense debris piles among which a lioness could easily conceal her cubs. Should she birth a litter, we are looking at at least five, and possibly all six lionesses with cubs. It is usually only at around 6 weeks old that a lioness will introduce her cubs to the rest of the pride, but imagine a scenario in which all the cubs are together?! Yes the mortality rate for young lions is high, but if the Mhangeni pride could raise 9 out of 10 on their first try (6 of which became the Ntsevu pride), there’s no reason why there progeny couldn’t perform a similar feat. The success of this Tsalala lineage has been heart-warming to watch. Through the change-over from the Mapogo to the Majingilane, the original 4 Mhangeni female survived to reproduce, mating with the Majingilane themselves to raise 9 out of 10 cubs through to independence. Have a look at this footage from 2013, with that first batch of cubs on a zebra the adult lionesses had brought down the night before. 6 of the small ones you see here are the Ntsevu females when they were very young: So will we be seeing almost 20 cubs all together in the next few months? Doubtful, but one can always live in hope… |
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