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Gijima coalition

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(02-27-2025, 07:30 AM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(02-27-2025, 01:09 AM)Ngonya Wrote:
(02-27-2025, 12:21 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: DM limping (some say for months?), but i dont remember seeing any footage of that (or i missed it?).
I dont recall anything of him limping before January tbh
Did he always had that black spot/smudge on his hip?

Black spot on his hip, not limping. By Michael Laufbahn, December 30



Limping slightly, black spot on his hip. By Savannah Hanni, January 26


Limping, black spot on his hip. By Megan Zernicke, February 12


Apparently its getting worse





While we don't know for certain he has TB, that would be my first guess as to what ails him, as we do know what it does to their body, with the sharp pointed growths it causes to build up on their bones, especially around the joints. I continue to pray that one day, a cure for this scourge might be found, so as to rid these cats of it forever.
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(02-27-2025, 07:30 AM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(02-27-2025, 01:09 AM)Ngonya Wrote:
(02-27-2025, 12:21 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: DM limping (some say for months?), but i dont remember seeing any footage of that (or i missed it?).
I dont recall anything of him limping before January tbh
Did he always had that black spot/smudge on his hip?

Black spot on his hip, not limping. By Michael Laufbahn, December 30



Limping slightly, black spot on his hip. By Savannah Hanni, January 26


Limping, black spot on his hip. By Megan Zernicke, February 12


Apparently its getting worse




From this video it looks to me like it may have been an accident by hunting?
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I think a lot is being made of DM Gijima and this limp, are we forgetting the area this guy controls and all the nomadic males around him either in Sabi Sands or into KNP, and this is not even counting the 5 Nkhulus east of him and his brother. Just recently in Sabi Sands alone, we've had Khanya and NK, all 4 Kambulas, Floppy Ear, KM + S.Avoca all within their territory meaning both Gijimas have had to been covering a lot of ground, making their presence ever known, most likely got in a scrap or two aswell, even since beating up one of the Nkhulus. If his leg was really that bad, he wouldn't still be going into Nkhulu territory with his brother. As for TB rumours, the only thing I can say is it looks like he can still keep his weight, but if he really does have it, we'll see massive changes to his body over the next few months.
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1/2 Gijima males following the Msutlu Pride on Lion Sands

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(02-28-2025, 05:32 PM)KM600 Wrote: I think a lot is being made of DM Gijima and this limp, are we forgetting the area this guy controls and all the nomadic males around him either in Sabi Sands or into KNP, and this is not even counting the 5 Nkhulus east of him and his brother. Just recently in Sabi Sands alone, we've had Khanya and NK, all 4 Kambulas, Floppy Ear, KM + S.Avoca all within their territory meaning both Gijimas have had to been covering a lot of ground, making their presence ever known, most likely got in a scrap or two aswell, even since beating up one of the Nkhulus. If his leg was really that bad, he wouldn't still be going into Nkhulu territory with his brother. As for TB rumours, the only thing I can say is it looks like he can still keep his weight, but if he really does have it, we'll see massive changes to his body over the next few months.

Hopefully he is ok and will be ok. All the males mentioned; I would not like to see cubs getting hurt and lionesses having to move around. 
Mahangeni is back in the west?
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Dark Mane Gijima patrolling Alone, he is walking better

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(03-11-2025, 07:38 PM)Fenix123 Wrote: Dark Mane Gijima patrolling Alone, he is walking better

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Good news.

@BA0701 seems like he doesn't have TB
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(03-11-2025, 07:45 PM)FACR2212 Wrote:
(03-11-2025, 07:38 PM)Fenix123 Wrote: Dark Mane Gijima patrolling Alone, he is walking better

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Good news.

@BA0701 seems like he doesn't have TB

That is good news, indeed. I do hope you are correct, that he doesn't have it, I never want any lion to have that cursed disease, but, only time will tell. I don't know what that black spot on his shoulder is, I hope that we see it go away soon.
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Been going back through the Sabi Sands thread recently, toward the start to middle part of last year when there was a crazy amount of chaos. Reason I'm mentioning this is because I seen a comment about how impressive Gijimas had been in chasing all 7 Nkhulus when they first started to establish themselves and @Mapokser saying he doesn't know if any other coalition could do that, not to out u or anything. There's no doubt that was an impressive feat, which I have seen other males almost recreate, most recently being Kijana and Olchore chasing the 6 Topi boys who later themselves went to oust the mighty Bila Shakas from Marsh Pride territory just a month or two later. Gijimas ousting the Nkhulus in that instance was not their greatest achievement in terms of conflicts, their greatest achievement is still being able to hold their own against 3 / 4 /5 territorial Nkhulus at mulitple points. Nkhulus who are serious about expanding and will do serious damage, most males would be like 'u are back again still outnumbering us massively on top of having all this new confidence, just take the prides, we'll set up shop somewhere else.'

That is what separates Gijimas to me from everyone else, defending themselves from a much more serious threat has almost seemed suicidal at times, queue the LM Gijima chase of 4 Nkhulus. I don't like the 'well they have achieved so much as a duo so I would rank them this high, maybe just below Mr T and KT,' that I've seen some ppl do for other duos but man, what a duo. I hope this same nature will be seen in all of their sons.
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@KM600 

Yea but keep in mind that Nkhulus have only 2 fully healthy males.
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(03-13-2025, 07:28 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: @KM600 

Yea but keep in mind that Nkhulus have only 2 fully healthy males.

They’ve all been looking good recently, but even so, the intent has been there to expand. Injured or not they have always been very capable of taking the Gijimas out.
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@KM600 I don't know the age of these Mara lions you mention, but they develop quicker there and the state of nomadhood counts a lot.

A single male may easily chase 4 fully nomadic young males like the Skybed son did recently, despite the Monwana being very impressive nomads, strength-wise.

What makes the Gijima feat impressive is because it was a direct full blown challenge by the five 5yo-ish Nkuhlu ( at the time fully healthy ) and the prime, previously territorial Delaporte male.

1 hour of back and forth before the Gijima finally succeeded. S.Avoca did something similar but we didn't get details.

But what I said I doubted anyone else could replicate was that clash that got filmed, of 4 prime territorial Nkuhlu and the 2 Gijima.

Only 2 fully healthy, but the 2 unhealthy brothers were looking well and fully engaged in the chase and fight. That sighting of LM Gijima turning to face the Nkuhlu, pinning Snip Tail before driving the Nkuhlu away was the most epic scene of any lion clash I've ever seen.

You mention the Mlowathi, but even success aside ( Mlowathi didn't accomplish anything cub-wise ) I don't think they were as good as the Gijima in overall chasing clashes.

Gijima even chased the 3 strongest Nkuhlu out of their own territory before mating with their female. The only prime, fully territorial males the Mlowathi faced were, ironically, the Gijima of their time. They had many clashes as per Djuma's report. Out of the info we have from Djuma, WildEarth and MalaMala, the coalitions were close in strength, Mr.T and KT couldn't get rid of them no matter how many times they tried ( according to Djuma ) and eventually had to abandon Djuma and the Nkuhuma pride.

I'd say this though, Mlowathi were way more lethal and wouldn't have missed so many "opportunities" against the Nkuhlu if they had the same chances the Gijima did.
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(03-13-2025, 09:38 PM)Mapokser Wrote: I'd say this though, Mlowathi were way more lethal and wouldn't have missed so many "opportunities" against the Nkuhlu if they had the same chances the Gijima did.

That's probably what impacted so many people about Mapogo Mlowathi. For example, the way they took down 5th Majingilane was so skillfull, I haven't seen other video of two males pushing another male to the ground in the way Mr. T did, grabbing the youngest from the neck allowing KT to do the damage.

Anyway, Gijimas have been very balanced at the time of taking risks, what is no doubt a great strenght of their temperament.
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Both Gijima Males, and the Styx Pride, steal an old leopard's kill.




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(03-16-2025, 10:08 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Both Gijima Males, and the Styx Pride, steal an old leopard's kill.





Always feel bad for the leopard but great to see a proper video of the Styx pride.
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