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Felids Interactions - Interspecific Conflicts

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(05-01-2019, 04:38 PM)Shadow Wrote:
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(05-01-2019, 12:16 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(05-01-2019, 12:30 AM)Luipaard Wrote: Leopard v mugger crocodile






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Shows you how easily it overpowered a similiar sized crocodile

Just that I understand right, that video and that photo are from different cases. So there is one case, where both seem to disperse. And then a photo from another fight which is showing one moment of fight, but not result of it. Right?

I'm not sure if these are two different interactions. Even if it is, both crocodiles are decent sized. What I find amazing in that video is the situation the leopard is in; it's predating on a dangerous foe that's its own size while being harassed by even more dangerous water buffaloes. Still had everything under control.

Yes big cats can do well with crocodiles especially when smaller crocs are on dry land or shallow water. But it looked like in that video, that both had had enough in the end. Croc did bite leopard to front leg and leopard then again bite on backside of neck of the crocodile, so inconvenient for both :)

Assuming that the video and image are different interactions, I doubt that the leopard would've stopped the attack. It was clearly dominating the 'fight'...
Well, when having front leg in mouth of crocodile it can be seen in different ways and I doubt, that leopard is so eager to attack when leg is finally released :) It is a bit unclear which one made attack, I don´t see too many reasons why a leopard would continue fight especially if it was under attack in first place. Quite difficult to make big conclusions when seeing only a glimpse of something. But at least both were biting there each others for longer time and in the end I didn´t see either one anymore so eager to continue. Looked like bot were thinking that not worth it anymore.

Think it's clear who made the attack. Also, it would be a waste of energy stopping the attack by that point. Pretty sure the leopard pressed the attack after the video.
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Leopard hides from tiger


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(05-01-2019, 04:56 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(05-01-2019, 04:38 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(05-01-2019, 04:30 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(05-01-2019, 04:18 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(05-01-2019, 03:44 PM)Luipaard Wrote:
(05-01-2019, 12:16 PM)Shadow Wrote:
(05-01-2019, 12:30 AM)Luipaard Wrote: Leopard v mugger crocodile






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Shows you how easily it overpowered a similiar sized crocodile

Just that I understand right, that video and that photo are from different cases. So there is one case, where both seem to disperse. And then a photo from another fight which is showing one moment of fight, but not result of it. Right?

I'm not sure if these are two different interactions. Even if it is, both crocodiles are decent sized. What I find amazing in that video is the situation the leopard is in; it's predating on a dangerous foe that's its own size while being harassed by even more dangerous water buffaloes. Still had everything under control.

Yes big cats can do well with crocodiles especially when smaller crocs are on dry land or shallow water. But it looked like in that video, that both had had enough in the end. Croc did bite leopard to front leg and leopard then again bite on backside of neck of the crocodile, so inconvenient for both :)

Assuming that the video and image are different interactions, I doubt that the leopard would've stopped the attack. It was clearly dominating the 'fight'...
Well, when having front leg in mouth of crocodile it can be seen in different ways and I doubt, that leopard is so eager to attack when leg is finally released :) It is a bit unclear which one made attack, I don´t see too many reasons why a leopard would continue fight especially if it was under attack in first place. Quite difficult to make big conclusions when seeing only a glimpse of something. But at least both were biting there each others for longer time and in the end I didn´t see either one anymore so eager to continue. Looked like bot were thinking that not worth it anymore.

Think it's clear who made the attack. Also, it would be a waste of energy stopping the attack by that point. Pretty sure the leopard pressed the attack after the video.

Well, when you get wounded you might think again what is waste of energy and what are the risks. I see here a video which starts in the middle of fight and not clear who started it, knowing these animals it could have been either way. Both did well there and both seemed to get some wounds. Usually in such situation wounded animals rethink situation. I see that quite differently so, that I don´t dare to make big conclusions as you are now doing. Many examples from past have proven, that when longer footage is available from some short glimpse, whole situation can suddenly change. Short video clips are easiest way to spread misinformation and false images to people :)

I am not saying, that it is your purpose, but I mean, that it is good to remember the difference between a short clip and longer footage. You and I both can´t know how this situation started, impossible to know from this kind of footage.
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From Arathusa Safari Lodge (link):

"A tug of war ensued and The big male Leopard dominated the Hyena in pulling power, dragging the carcass and the Hyena almost 20 meters!"


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I put this older video here, maybe many have seen it before, but how many have actually read description about it, how situation developed or watched whole time to see it. Very fascinating incident.





Here description of that video from youtube:
"Did two enemies team up to get themselves dinner? Judge for yourself as you watch this rare interaction between a leopard, hyena and warthog.
A normal sighting of the Ravenscourt male leopard turned into this incredible interaction as he spotted a pair of warthog in the long grass. The leopard started to stalk the warthog. Eventually the stalk was successful in that the leopard managed to ambush and grab one of the warthogs. The second warthog reacted to the squeals of the first as the leopard tried to down it. A hyena also reacted to the squealing warthog and the remaining warthog ran off as the leopard continued to try and subdue the first. The hyena's presence caused the leopard to lose concentration and the warthog fought back. The warthog escaped the grip of the leopard and charged at the hyena before running off. The hyena chased the warthog, leaving the leopard to recover his breath. The inured warthog charged the hyena again before expiring. The hyena started to feed on the warthog as the leopard watched from a distance. The leopard started to approach the hyena from behind, perhaps in the hope the hyena would get a surprise and leave the warthog long enough for the leopard to snatch back. The hyena ignored the leopard and continued to eat the warthog. The leopard approached to within striking distance of the hyena which moved around the warthog meal slightly. The leopard moved to the warthog and started to feed together with the hyena! Leopards have been known to take down hyenas, and vice versa. Leopards hardly ever feed together, not even mother and cubs. To see two such enemies feeding together is an incredibly rare sighting!

Filmed in the Sabi Sand Wildtuin, Greater Kruger National Park, South Africa "
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Not conflict but rather relationship

"Resource exploitation and behavioural interference underlie competition among carnivores. Competition is reduced by specializing on different prey and/or spatiotemporal separation, usually leading to different food habits. We predicted that two closely related species of large cats, the endangered snow leopard and the near-threatened common leopard, living in sympatry, would coexist through habitat separation and exploitation of different prey species. In central Himalaya, we assessed (2006–2010) habitat and diet overlap between these carnivores. The snow leopard used grassland and shrubland, whereas the common leopard selected forest. Contrary to our prediction, snow leopard and common leopard preyed upon similar wild (Himalayan tahr, musk deer) and domestic species (Bos spp., dogs). Dietary overlap between snow leopard and common leopard was 69% (yearly), 76% (colder months) and 60% (warmer months). Thus, habitat separation should be the result of other factors, most likely avoidance of interspecific aggression. Habitat separation may not always lead to the use of different prey. Avoidance of interspecific aggression, rather than exploitation of different resources, could allow the coexistence of potentially competing large predators."

https://www.researchgate.net/publication..._predators
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And on the other hand, the leopard and snow leopard have been recorded using the same habitat in China's Sanjiangyhan nature reserve. Apologies if this has been posted already.





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(05-10-2019, 01:12 AM)Sully Wrote: And on the other hand, the leopard and snow leopard have been recorded using the same habitat in China's Sanjiangyhan nature reserve. Apologies if this has been posted already.





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For me, the overlapping of these two felines is one the most fascinating ones alongside the cougar and jaguar. The question is; how is this going to affect them?

“The snow leopard is known to thrive alongside lynx, Pallas’s cats, wolves and even bears. But all these species are either smaller, or have a very different predation pattern. The common leopard, on the other hand, hunts the same animals as the snow leopard, but is bigger”, Koustubh Sharma says. “There’s a possibility that the common leopard could displace the snow leopard if their habitats were to overlap. On the other hand, tigers and leopards also coexist in the same habitat and on nearly the same prey base in different parts of the world, as do lions and cheetahs. Displacement by common leopards is certainly not one of the major threats to the snow leopard right now – poaching, retaliation killings and the loss or prey and habitat are much more pressing issues – but it will be very interesting to observe the two species going forward.” 

Dr. Wen Cheng from Shan Shui told the BBC that the availability of food will be key. “The possibility for co-existence or conflict highly depends on the abundance and diversity of wild prey,” he said.

Here's both camera traps next to eachother:


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This is additional information regarding the death of a young male leopard called Wabayiza. I'm pretty sure everyone has seen these tragic images:


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Chitwa guests, the Stahl family from Germany, got to see two leopards that morning, and surprisingly Wabayiza and Xivambalane were cheekily close to the Styx pride of lions……the lions simply ignored them.

And so, Surprise decided it was time for a break, and looked around for a good spot for a stretch of legs, coffee & muffins. They had just taken a few bites, when they heard distinct intermittent growling and running sounds. 

At first Surprise thought it must be the male lion from the Matimba pride picking a fight - he had been stalking the Styx cubs of late, and he was probably on the prowl – they had spotted him earlier that morning.

The roaring and growling did not subside, and so Surprise decided it was time to take a closer look -in a jiffy Tracker Ralph packed up, and the family jumped into the car. 
As they approached, they realized instantly that it was not the Matimba lion after all. 

The Styx pride was in the process of chasing the two leopards in different directions – Xivambalane had found a tree, and was safely ensconced up in the branches. But the young male leopard Wabayiza’s luck had just run out, there were no trees around… and the six lions closed in. The lions had already done some damage, he was unable to move and lay helplessly looking up at the lions. After a few minutes, the Styx put their heads down and decided to move on. 
This was not about feeding, this was about protecting their cubs. 
Spunky as always, Wabayiza saw a gap, and in a last supreme effort pulled his broken body up and made a dash for the closest trees. 
The mother of the cubs whipped around, raced at him and pounced, just as he tried to leap. When she was sure that Wabayiza would not more again, she slowly turned around and walked back to her cubs. 

The Stahl family had gotten much more than they had bargained for …..an incredible story to tell about their Safari at Chitwa Chitwa….nevertheless mixed emotions at a most unusual sighting……


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From Chitwa Chitwa Private Game Lodge: "From the first scuffle Wabayiza's spinal cord was already badly damaged, and he literally could not move. His last attempt to get away was rather desperate, and when the female lion took him down, that was the end. The hyena's finished the job....."
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Anderson, the male leopard being chased up a tree by the Nkuhuma pride and two Birmingham males.
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Interactions between cougars (Puma concolor) and gray wolves (Canis lupus) in Banff National Park, Alberta

"Large carnivore populations are recovering in many protected areas in North America, but the effect of increasing carnivore numbers on existing predator—prey and predator—predator interactions is poorly understood. We studied diet and spatial overlap among cougars (Puma concolor) and gray wolves (Canis lupus) in Banff National Park, Alberta (1993–2004) to evaluate how wolf recovery in the park influenced diet choice and space use patterns of resident cougars. Cougars (n = 13) and wolves (n = 8 in 2 packs) were monitored intensively over 3 winters (2000–2001 to 2002–2003) via radio telemetry and snowtracking. We documented a 65% decline in the local elk population following the arrival of wolves, with cougars concurrently switching from a winter diet primarily constituted of elk to one consisting mainly of deer and other alternative prey. Elk also became less important in wolf diet, but this latter diet switch lagged 1 y behind that of cougars. Wolves were responsible for cougar mortality and usurping prey carcasses from cougars, but cougars failed to exhibit reciprocal behaviour. Cougar and wolf home ranges overlapped, but cougars showed temporal avoidance of areas recently occupied by wolves. We conclude that wolves can alter the diet and space use patterns of sympatric large carnivores through interference and exploitative interactions. Understanding these relationships is important for the effective conservation and management of large mammals in protected areas where carnivore populations are recovering."

Source: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.2...src=recsys
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I swear, the Airstrip clan seems to pick fights with lions almost daily now. This time more than 40 of them showed up and pushed three young male lions and two adult lionesses off a wildebeest kill. I’m actually not sure who made the kill, but either way, the hyenas had the last (literal) laugh. I think it’s high time we get Eternal Enemies II: Airstrip Vendetta. Let’s make it happen, people.


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Whenlightningstrikes The customary drive from the kolara gate through the Jamni meadows and the panderpauni waterholes, betrayed no signs of the movement of the large felines or any other carnivores. Our collective intuition however, led us towards the Navegaon gate as Maya was lately seen passing through the very same landscape. Ten minutes into the drive we observed scores of herbivores merrily grazing along the way with an occasional sounder of Wild pigs alongside startled newborns in toe. To our gleeful surprise, we came across a pair of courting wild dogs on the road alongside a depleting rivulet. Oblivious of their surroundings, the usually vigilant dholes were mindless of not only our presence but also of something else that lurked nearby.

Whilst trying to capture this unique animal behaviour, We noticed a slight flutter in the grass ahead. As if almost on cue, the hair on my back stood up in rhythmic excitement as the reality of the situation dawned upon me. I was sure I saw stripes. 
Camouflaged perfectly, she lay silently waiting for the unsuspecting couple to move into striking distance. With shivering hands and fervent anticipation, I hurriedly set up my camera to record this remarkable natural history moment that was about to unfold in front of my eyes.

What happened next was going to be etched in our memories forever. Synonymous to a lightning strike, the tigress leaped towards the ill-fated dog with unbridled fury. A fraction of a second and a paw swipe later, she delivered a 
deathly bite to the dhole's jugular. .
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(05-21-2019, 12:27 AM)Pckts Wrote:

arjdheer

I swear, the Airstrip clan seems to pick fights with lions almost daily now. This time more than 40 of them showed up and pushed three young male lions and two adult lionesses off a wildebeest kill. I’m actually not sure who made the kill, but either way, the hyenas had the last (literal) laugh. I think it’s high time we get Eternal Enemies II: Airstrip Vendetta. Let’s make it happen, people.


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Whenlightningstrikes The customary drive from the kolara gate through the Jamni meadows and the panderpauni waterholes, betrayed no signs of the movement of the large felines or any other carnivores. Our collective intuition however, led us towards the Navegaon gate as Maya was lately seen passing through the very same landscape. Ten minutes into the drive we observed scores of herbivores merrily grazing along the way with an occasional sounder of Wild pigs alongside startled newborns in toe. To our gleeful surprise, we came across a pair of courting wild dogs on the road alongside a depleting rivulet. Oblivious of their surroundings, the usually vigilant dholes were mindless of not only our presence but also of something else that lurked nearby.

Whilst trying to capture this unique animal behaviour, We noticed a slight flutter in the grass ahead. As if almost on cue, the hair on my back stood up in rhythmic excitement as the reality of the situation dawned upon me. I was sure I saw stripes. 
Camouflaged perfectly, she lay silently waiting for the unsuspecting couple to move into striking distance. With shivering hands and fervent anticipation, I hurriedly set up my camera to record this remarkable natural history moment that was about to unfold in front of my eyes.

What happened next was going to be etched in our memories forever. Synonymous to a lightning strike, the tigress leaped towards the ill-fated dog with unbridled fury. A fraction of a second and a paw swipe later, she delivered a 
deathly bite to the dhole's jugular. .

That lion-hyena situation reminds in the way about it what was reported 1999 from Ethiopia... interesting to see if something like that is coming up.

I mean case mentioned from instance here, first quote and then link.

"Lion hyena fights sometimes go on for days. During one, in 1999, thirty five hyenas and six lions died during a two week encounter in the Ethiopian desert. Every night the animals went for each other in a viscous frenzy, before retreating into their dens during the day, to avoid the blistering sun. It was like First World War trench warfare with teeth and claws."

https://roaring.earth/lions-vs-hyenas-fight-food/
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Gamewatchers Safaris & Porini CampsDaniel & Hannah Foster, guests at Porini Mara Camp, Ol Kinyei Conservancy, on a game drive with our KPSGA Silver Guide, Jimmy Sengeny, had an unusual sighting: first a leopard seized a young zebra and then a lioness saw what was happening and moved up beside the leopard until the zebra was killed whereupon she took over the prize much to the leopard's annoyance.

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A leopard kills a zebra and a crocodile catches the carcass at the Maasai Mara - Ingo Gerlach

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(05-21-2019, 04:12 AM)Pckts Wrote: Gamewatchers Safaris & Porini CampsDaniel & Hannah Foster, guests at Porini Mara Camp, Ol Kinyei Conservancy, on a game drive with our KPSGA Silver Guide, Jimmy Sengeny, had an unusual sighting: first a leopard seized a young zebra and then a lioness saw what was happening and moved up beside the leopard until the zebra was killed whereupon she took over the prize much to the leopard's annoyance.

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A leopard kills a zebra and a crocodile catches the carcass at the Maasai Mara - Ingo Gerlach

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Really good photos. And that lion actually looks like to be so cute, but damn they just are so poor to share :)
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