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Captive Lion and Tiger weights

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The male tiger weighs a maximum of 251kg and the female tiger weighs a maximum of 247kg.



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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7640590/
Eighteen captive tigers (seven males and 11 females), aged 2–18 years old and weighing 81–154 kg (mean±sd weight of 127.4±20.1 kg), scheduled for periodic physical examination or diagnostic procedures at the Veterinary Teaching Hospital of the University of Milan (Lodi, Italy) were enrolled in the study after obtaining owners’ written consent. Tigers were fasted for 24 hours before immobilization but had free access to water up to two hours before the procedure. During this period, tigers were kept in mobile dedicated cages to facilitate weighing operations and remote drug administration.

In the link it has a few pictures of some of the tigers, as well as a chart of the age, sex, and weights of the tigers.
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(08-18-2021, 06:17 PM)TheLioness Wrote:
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Hope all is well, Lioness. Can you please add the source of the info you posted on the tigress and the Lioness?
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(08-20-2021, 10:02 AM)peter Wrote:
(08-18-2021, 06:17 PM)TheLioness Wrote:
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Hope all is well, Lioness. Can you please add the source of the info you posted on the tigress and the Lioness?

All is well, hope all is well there Peter. Yes of course, sorry i thought I added that in with it. A quick google book search would show anyone the books. 

Lioness source
Clinical Cases in Avian and Exotic Animal Hematology and Cytology
By Terry W. CampbellKrystan R. Grant · 2011


Tigress source 
Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association
Volume 159, Issue 2

By American Veterinary Medical Association · 1971
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https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?u...source=app
Hello everyone I made this thread about largest lions from captivity till ever...
Pls see this and Inform me if it's confirmed or not  Like
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https://youtu.be/-1wlHi_KK1U
650 pound male lion??
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/ma...dentistry/
Mumbasa not 800 lbs (unconfirmed report)  but well over 600 lbs
http://www.thirdage.com/humor/...lion-re...anal-video confirmed here 

That's insane!!!?
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@BIGCATSXPERT : You can be sure, it's very easy to download a youtube video...






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(09-04-2021, 06:42 PM)Spalea Wrote: @BIGCATSXPERT : You can be sure, it's very easy to download a youtube video...







@Spalea what video?
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@BIGCATSXPERT : as concerns the way to download videos from youtube and so on, if you want to read some tips :


https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-how-to-...s-in-posts
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(09-05-2021, 12:43 AM)Spalea Wrote: @BIGCATSXPERT : as concerns the way to download videos from youtube and so on, if you want to read some tips :


https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-how-to-...s-in-posts

Ok thank you...
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( This post was last modified: 09-15-2021, 02:07 PM by LandSeaLion Edit Reason: Corrected publication year )

A thesis by Shilpa Pradeep Parbhu (University of Johannesburg, 2019) comparing the morphological and genetic characteristics of captive lions in South Africa with those of their wild counterparts:

https://ujcontent.uj.ac.za/vital/access/services/Download/uj:33564/SOURCE1

Lions from four breeding facilities in South Africa were measured. The morphological characteristics are laid out in detail on page 28. I’ve copied most of them below; the thesis also has a few extra measurements like leg length and canine length (shoulder length is the length between the shoulder blades and the start of the tail, by the way):

Facility 1 (n=23)

Males (n=7)
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Average weight: 241.16 kg
Average total length: 296.86cm
Shoulder length: 116.43cm
Abdominal girth: 159.2cm
Chest girth: 149.4cm
Tail length: 90.71cm
Tail circumference: 30.57cm
Head length: 42.84cm
Head width: 31.14cm

Females (n=16)
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Average weight: 149.65 kg
Average total length: 250.21cm
Shoulder length: 101.64cm
Abdominal girth: 132.14cm
Chest girth: 122.23cm
Tail length: 80.31cm
Tail circumference: 25.44cm
Head length: 35.5cm
Head width: 19.33cm

Facility #2 (n=11)

Males (n=4)
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Average weight: 199.65kg
Average total length: 290.75cm
Shoulder length: 158cm
Abdominal girth: 141.5cm
Chest girth: 142.25cm
Tail length: 85.75cm
Tail circumference: 26.25cm
Head length: 44.5cm
Head width: 29.75cm

Females (n=7)
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Average weight: 121.23cm
Average total length: 243cm
Shoulder length: 134cm
Abdominal girth: 115.5cm
Chest girth: 112cm
Tail length: 74.57cm
Tail circumference: 23.25cm
Head length: 35.29cm
Head width: 20.43cm

Facility #3 (n=11)

Males (n=2)
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Average weight: 260.25kg
Average total length: 298.5cm
Shoulder length: 168cm
Abdominal girth: 153cm
Chest girth: 158cm
Tail length: 93.5cm
Tail circumference: 32.25cm
Head length: 48cm
Head width: 34cm

Females (n=9)
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Average weight: 161.94kg (the boxplot on page 32 indicates that one outlier lioness weighed about 220kg)
Average total length: 254.39cm
Shoulder length: 134.67cm
Abdominal girth: 132.89cm
Chest girth: 129.44cm
Tail length: 83.67cm
Tail circumference: 26.72cm
Head length: 35.11cm
Head width: 19.63cm

Facility #4 (n=81)

Males (n=26)
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Average weight: 227.78kg
Average total length: -
Shoulder length: 155.23cm
Abdominal girth: -
Chest girth: -
Tail length: -
Tail circumference: -
Head length: -
Head width: -

Females (n=18 - I suspect this might be a typo, given that n total is meant to be 81 for facility #4)
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Average weight: 159.82kg
Average total length: -
Shoulder length: 132.83cm
Abdominal girth: -
Chest girth: -
Tail length: -
Tail circumference: -
Head length: -
Head width: -

The average weights of males and females was 229kg and 152kg respectively (compared to 190kg and 126kg for lions in the wild). Potential reasons given for the discrepancy include selective breeding for larger lions in captivity (pg 40), more regular feeding sessions (pg 42) and less room to exercise (pg 42). 

The captive lions in these particular facilities showed good genetic diversity, and no visible evidence of disease or malnutrition.
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@LandSeaLion :

About #687: I am not specialist, but what do you call "Shoulder length" ?

When I read :

Facility 1 shoulder length of male : 116,43 cm
Facility 3 shoulder length of male : 168 cm

Are they quite different from this part of the body ?
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( This post was last modified: 09-15-2021, 12:44 PM by LandSeaLion )

(09-15-2021, 12:22 PM)Spalea Wrote: @LandSeaLion :

About #687: I am not specialist, but what do you call "Shoulder length" ?

When I read :

Facility 1 shoulder length of male : 116,43 cm
Facility 3 shoulder length of male : 168 cm

Are they quite different from this part of the body ?

Yeah that stood out to me as a bit odd too. The “shoulder length” is defined in the paper as the distance between the shoulder blades/scapula and the start of the tail. It’s such a sizeable difference that I wondered if they had perhaps made an error (especially considering the lions’ overall total length is very similar, the lions in facility #3 having longer heads and tails), but the author also notes it as a big difference.

116cm seems too short to me.
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@LandSeaLion 

About #689: OK ! "Shoulder length" is the body length except the head, the neck and the tail... Thank you.
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