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Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage

Poland NLAL11 Offline
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(09-27-2024, 07:39 PM)GhostCatP-22 Wrote:
(09-27-2024, 07:24 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: I replied on this thread asking if this is Mohawk, and then just mildly said how it's interesting that we've been calling him Mohawk for years, and got a totally snotty answer back that this is the Northern Avoca Male and Mohawk is not an official name, so ...

ok... thanks dude!!  hahaha





 Try and ignore the haters or send a personal message asking them to stop being rude. This forum has done a pretty good job of encouraging good debate and sharing of info so I definitely will try to keep it that way.

 There’s someone who gets mad that Nym is now named Nym even tho he’s not Nkuhuma young male anymore. 
Side note on Nym’s name…Nym is Greek for “name” and his no name nick name is his real name now! I love the irony and how well that works…his name means name lol.
 I very much like the names Nym and Khanya. Khanya means “light” in one of the local languages and his missing brother, Dwizhala, means “dark” as in the same language.

The suffix "-nym" is a Greek word that means "name" and is used in many English words. Here are some examples of words that end in "-nym" and their meanings: 

 

I'm not sure how the fact that 'Nym' is Greek for name means anything in this regard. It is hardly his official name, and I agree with @Ngonya that it's weird to refer to him by the acronym that originally meant 'Nkuhuma Young Male' when he's not anymore, and there are three Nkuhuma males that are younger than him. The boy currently still with the pride is the most fitting for the title NYM. Mohawk is different, as the WildEarth crew always called him that. But no one, aside from a couple of people on here, refer to the Nkuhuma male as 'Nym'. So he's a lion named 'name'? Sorry but that doesn't make any sense.
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I guess this is why most organisations rely on numbers rather than names to track animals.

People can complain all they want, but unless someone comes up with an actual name that is universally accepted for him, Nym it is. 
And lets be honest here. Most of the names are unoriginal, duplicated and can be argued over in a similar maner. Mohawk is not more official than any other name and will not make sense once he loses his mane either. Not to mention that the whole Pride young Gender naming sceme is a recipe for confusion to begin with if strictly followed.

So lets not overthink it. Aslong we know which lion is being referred too its fine and the new Nyms will get their own nicknames eventually. Its not like the animals use names themselves and are are out there feeling insulted if we name them Mr biggles or Snowball or something.
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My friend he is the nkuhuma male I don’t think I’ve ever seen him being called the nym plus I think he’s 8 years old or 7 years old very far from young but then we’ve got the 2021 avoca son I think we should try to refer to him as the nkuhuma young male since he is the only nkuhuma young male not to confuse him with the older nkuhuma male or the nkuhuma breakaway young male but honestly idk I’ve never gotten any of these guys confused one is older one is younger and the other two are in a coalition of 2 maybe 3 but the Mohawk think idk I’ve been calling him Mohawk for so long and literally everyone on this website has people in manyleti and northern sabi sands also call him that so that’ll be his name or northern avoca male since he is the last one either is fine
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(Yesterday, 02:22 AM)Ngonya Wrote: 1/2 Nkuhuma males at KNP, this is the blonder maned male. They are both looking quite impressive, anyone knows what area Themba roams so we can have an idea where the boys are?

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I’m not sure where this was taken but the video is at Skukuza and really recent too.
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(Yesterday, 03:53 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: I guess this is why most organisations rely on numbers rather than names to track animals.

People can complain all they want, but unless someone comes up with an actual name that is universally accepted for him, Nym it is. 
And lets be honest here. Most of the names are unoriginal, duplicated and can be argued over in a similar maner. Mohawk is not more official than any other name and will not make sense once he loses his mane either. Not to mention that the whole Pride young Gender naming sceme is a recipe for confusion to begin with if strictly followed.

So lets not overthink it. Aslong we know which lion is being referred too its fine and the new Nyms will get their own nicknames eventually. Its not like the animals use names themselves and are are out there feeling insulted if we name them Mr biggles or Snowball or something.

The guides of the reserve he settled down in named him Mohawk. It doesn't get more official than that.

And if you are going to insist on calling the Nkuhuma male Nym (I can't tell you to do otherwise), then please differentiate between 'Nym' and 'NYM' - one is a 'word', the other is an acronym. You wouldn't call the US space program Nasa or the secret service Cia.
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(Yesterday, 04:06 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: My friend he is the nkuhuma male I don’t think I’ve ever seen him being called the nym

See the comment above yours.
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(Yesterday, 01:48 PM)NLAL11 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 04:06 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: My friend he is the nkuhuma male I don’t think I’ve ever seen him being called the nym

See the comment above yours.

Oops didn’t see it lol
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Nkuhuma male at Skukuza today

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Wow, sorry I started up with names!
I was just making an observation that he’s generally known as N.Y.M. Aka Nkuhuma young male on our forum. Yes he’s not the only Nkuhuma male anymore and he’s not young. 
NYM (homonym, synonym etc) is also a Greek root word. 
I just thought the coincidence was cool. 

Please drop and move on please.
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(7 hours ago)Ngonya Wrote: Nkuhuma male at Skukuza today

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He was shown earlier alone, is his brother there just not in the picture?
He’s so beautiful! Unique dark eyes.
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