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Lions of Sabi Sands
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@Rabubi I concur with your statements of it all boiling down to the government and balancing conservation with the social elements. Getting the locals involved in the conservation is key, such as the initiatives that take poachers and - rather than punishing, vilifying and ostracising them - training them to be rangers. Taking the people poaching out of need for money, and giving them a job protecting the animals instead, is the way it needs to be done.
Thank you for your kind words. I think this online community benefits from having someone like you who is, while not necessarily in the same position as these villagers, a little closer to the issue.  (05-25-2024, 08:32 PM)NLAL11 Wrote: @Rabubi I concur with your statements of it all boiling down to the government and balancing conservation with the social elements. Getting the locals involved in the conservation is key, such as the initiatives that take poachers and - rather than punishing, vilifying and ostracising them - training them to be rangers. Taking the people poaching out of need for money, and giving them a job protecting the animals instead, is the way it needs to be done. Absolutely, my friend. Helping the locals take initiative over conserving and managing natural resources is definitely the way to go. In the early 2000s there was a project launched in Zimbabwe known as the CAMPFIRE project. It was basically aimed at empowering local communities with the skills and resources to manage their communal lands via ecotourism and hunting and for a time, it worked quite well in that the wildlife population was stabilizing and the rural communities were making revenue. However, as in most cases here in Africa, corruption infected this program and the money started flowing only to the powerful and connected at the expense of the rural communities. As a result, that project basically crumbled. The people on the ground, when properly incentivised, are usually more than willing to take on these types of projects. The individuals who need to be placed under serious scrutiny are government officials as their performance can usually make or break such initiatives. 
It seems like 4 or 5 of the Sand River Lionesses were seen in the company of a maneless young male sub! Could there be another one missing from the trio seen a few times before? Or did he just rejoin them after being separated from his brothers? This was around early May. The guide ID'd them as members of the Sand River Pride.....He also ID'd the N'was Breakaway female and her 2 sons earlier.
 (05-26-2024, 12:54 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: It seems like 4 or 5 of the Sand River Lionesses were seen in the company of a maneless young male sub! Could there be another one missing from the trio seen a few times before? Or did he just rejoin them after being separated from his brothers? This was around early May. The guide ID'd them as members of the Sand River Pride.....He also ID'd the N'was Breakaway female and her 2 sons earlier.Could that have been a misID? Since theres 3 Nkhulus who barely got manes Anyways if its one of the Sand River subs he could've just briefly joined the pride and then left?
I don't think so because he was completely maneless! I didn't notice any mane at all. I mean, all his brothers have manes, so what's with his development? He's well over 2 years old. The youngest survivors were born back in 2021! He'd be closer to 3 than 2 now, in fact.
 (05-26-2024, 01:28 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: I don't think so because he was completely maneless! I didn't notice any mane at all. I mean, all his brothers have manes, so what's with his development? He's well over 2 years old. The youngest survivors were born back in 2021! He'd be closer to 3 than 2 now, in fact. Stressful times for a young lion, being forced away from his pride earlier than many others. That'd be my guess. (05-26-2024, 01:28 AM)Cath2020 Wrote: I don't think so because he was completely maneless! I didn't notice any mane at all. I mean, all his brothers have manes, so what's with his development? He's well over 2 years old. The youngest survivors were born back in 2021! He'd be closer to 3 than 2 now, in fact. The Nkuhuma young male is over three years old now and he's only just starting to develop a mane, and he's been through far less stress than the Sand River boys, seeing that he's pretty much still with his pride. 
Handsome plains camp male
https://www.facebook.com/groups/97561239...422646613/ 
Some males dont develop manes early, for example, current NK male was maneless at almost 4 years old.
Elephant Plains Weekly Lion Sightings 20-26 May
https://elephantplains.co.za/big-5-blog/...-may-2024/  *This image is copyright of its original author Monday, 20 May 2024
  (05-26-2024, 11:10 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote:(05-26-2024, 09:39 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Interesting that the NK Breakaways got chased off the giraffe carcass by the Nkuhuma pride but returned to the carcass after their father chased the NK oride off. That is interesting. I have been thinking. The sub adults they know who they are. Wouldn’t things change once the young male lion gets a bit older and the young lioness also gets a bit older? I wonder if they followed them north? Does this mean maybe they have followed them to the other prides? They are sub adults and maybe they have followed them before and maybe eaten with them before. It reminds me of the young Othowa daughters. The Othowa daughters must of followed the Tumbela male lion. (05-27-2024, 01:02 AM)Go131810 Wrote:(05-26-2024, 11:10 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote:I wonder if they followed the Plain Camp male lions.(05-26-2024, 09:39 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Interesting that the NK Breakaways got chased off the giraffe carcass by the Nkuhuma pride but returned to the carcass after their father chased the NK oride off. (05-27-2024, 01:03 AM)Go131810 Wrote:(05-27-2024, 01:02 AM)Go131810 Wrote:(05-26-2024, 11:10 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote:I wonder if they followed the Plain Camp male lions.(05-26-2024, 09:39 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Interesting that the NK Breakaways got chased off the giraffe carcass by the Nkuhuma pride but returned to the carcass after their father chased the NK oride off. @Go131810 , instead of replying to, and in the process editing your own post, maybe go back and simply edit that post to begin with, you can even simply add a line to the end of it if you wish, denoting that it is an edit when you do. But the way you just did this post will make it difficult for anyone to see it. |
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