Avoca Male Lions and Their Male Lineage

[KM600]

(03-08-2025, 02:22 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(03-08-2025, 02:15 AM)KM600 Wrote: Ppl just claim Dzwihala was most prolly the reason why the partnership ended as he was likely the most dominant of the 3, which never made any sense as one male has to be the most dominant. It doesn’t automatically mean they are the reason the group fractures.

DM male and NK where hanging alone when Khanya was absent for few weeks, so i dont think he was the problem either, as he and NK where more closer back then than NK and Khanya.

At that time NK was jumping in between Skorro Orpen, Tumbela and Talamatis, but didnt stick with neither.

I was always convinced NK was the one who split off from the others to stay with Talamatis meanwhile Khanya and Dzwihala went back to western sector. NK clearly overstayed his welcome as after that he was seen with quite a few puncture marks on his back from other lions, likely from Gijimas being as he was in their territory. After that he never found the Talamati duo together again. Will go down as one of those ‘what if’ type of coalitions as 3 big healthy males had decent chances of taking a pride. Reply

[KM600]

(03-08-2025, 02:28 AM)afortich Wrote:

(03-08-2025, 02:15 AM)KM600 Wrote:

(03-08-2025, 01:53 AM)afortich Wrote:

(03-08-2025, 01:47 AM)MrLoesoe Wrote: Hey guys I have a few questions, I came across this video from October 2023, featuring Khanya Talamati male, clearly recognizable through his 'bald' head, his brother, and the Nkhumuma male.

Is this the same Nkuhuma male he is in a coalition with at the moment? If yes, Khanya Talamati and him have been in a coalition before their current partnership? Or is this a different male?

And, is this 'the' brother of Khanya, Dzwihala, of whom I read earlier on this forum that he was huge (he is indeed I now see, bulky compared to Khanya, who is not exactly small either. And both are tall) and had great potential, but unfortunately dissappeared?

Yes, he is the same. Always accepted by Khanya, DM junior didn't fully accept NYM.

Not true, we have no idea why NK left these two boys aside from the fact he sought out their sisters who had just moved south to be controlled by the Gijimas. 

There is not a single video showing Khanya bonding with NK without his brother there around the time they all joined together, but there is video footage of NK being more bonded to Dzwihala, being they had already joined together previously in Northern Sabi Sands. 

Ppl just claim Dzwihala was most prolly the reason why the partnership ended as he was likely the most dominant of the 3, which never made any sense as one male has to be the most dominant. It doesn’t automatically mean they are the reason the group fractures.

I didn't say DM junior was the reason for that initial coalition failing.

This part wasn’t aimed at u, I just heard it quite a bit from ppl mostly on Twitter or yt who started spreading how this was the reason for it ending. Reply

[Ttimemarti]

The reason they don’t stay together was because nkuhuma male wanted to hang with the msuthu girls and the problem is he didn’t know those where darkmane jr and khanyas sisters and they where not interested in rejoining their sisters and left him in the south with them Reply