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the Selati coalition

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(04-19-2024, 01:16 AM)Ngonya Wrote: Rangers Report February 2013 - Leopard Hills Private Game Reserve

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"Even the above male (#4) with the smallest mane is darkening noticeably as they enter their prime! This male is the biggest of the 4 and seems to be the most dominant for much of the time!"

"They have been vocalising a lot this month and all 4 have been together, rather than off on their own. See video of one of the boys letting a rhino and calf know who is in charge, there are no better protectors for our Rhino’s than the Selati boys."

3/4 Selati males at Leopard Hills back in February 2013, just before going to their casual hunting patrols




They were really big specimens.
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Rangers Report March 2013 - Leopard Hills Private Game Reserve
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"All 4 gaining strength and feeding on their wildebeest kill"

"They faced their moment of reckoning during the latter part of the month, an almighty confrontation between 3 of the huge Majingilane males! In the aftermath one had an injured lip and another one an injured eye but they look stronger and more assured than ever! See images and video below. The way they handled the wily older Majingilane boys was commendable and the future of the Ximhungwe cubs looks very bright indeed!"

"One of the more dominant males (#3) just after putting his body on the line and sporting an injured lip."

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"A few days later and almost fully healed!"

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[0:00] Selati males feeding on their wildebeest kill.
[0:36] Selati males joining forces after a fight with Majingilane, roaring as they assert their dominance. 



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It's often forgotten since there were Matimbas, Charlestons and later even Mantimahles at the time, but the Majingilane were always described as big and huge by the Sabi Sands rangers.

It was impressive how the Selatis were able to repeatedly fight them off despite being younger and much less experienced. If not for one brother being killed by the buffalo, they wouldn't have been ousted by the Majingis.

Their first encounter IIRC was in late 2012 where both coalitions roared against each other. This was little over 6 months after they ousted the Mapogo, some Selatis were probably below 5yo, and they were already competing 4v4 against the big, prime and experienced Majingilane.

A shame things turned out like they did, they had 8 cubs in the Othawa pride ( biggest litter they in the last 20 years or so ) and a bunch in the Ximhungwe as well, with both prides living in "harmony". They would have been able to regrow the lion population in the West.

But the arrival of the Majingis saw the destruction of the Ximhungwe pride and the Othawas were unable to raise a big litter under them.
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When did the ximhungwe pride leave the west? I think the pride at least 4 adult females right? I know one was killed by a snare and then the selatis took over
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Inyati Game Lodge, October 21, 2012
"The Selati males crossed Sand River last night in search of buffaloes; so much for the hunt we found them this morning lying happily among the Ximhungwe lionesses. Well, what can we say -the priorities in life."
Selati #1 leading his brother Selati #2

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(not sure if that was posted already?)
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(04-23-2024, 12:49 AM)Ngonya Wrote: Inyati Game Lodge, October 21, 2012
"The Selati males crossed Sand River last night in search of buffaloes; so much for the hunt we found them this morning lying happily among the Ximhungwe lionesses. Well, what can we say -the priorities in life."
Selati #1 leading his brother Selati #2

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(not sure if that was posted already?)

Wait.. Where is this?  Are these boys in Sabi now?  Did the Ximungs move?

Nevermind... I'll let my comment stand as a testament to my stupidity....
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(04-23-2024, 01:21 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote: Wait.. Where is this?  Are these boys in Sabi now?  Did the Ximungs move?
No, friend.
Thats from October 21, 2012.
I wrote it up there! 

These boys are the fathers of the last Ximhungwe female (the one who is actually born from Ximhungwe pride)
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(04-23-2024, 01:21 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote:
(04-23-2024, 12:49 AM)Ngonya Wrote: Inyati Game Lodge, October 21, 2012
"The Selati males crossed Sand River last night in search of buffaloes; so much for the hunt we found them this morning lying happily among the Ximhungwe lionesses. Well, what can we say -the priorities in life."
Selati #1 leading his brother Selati #2

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(not sure if that was posted already?)

Wait.. Where is this?  Are these boys in Sabi now?  Did the Ximungs move?

Ha, Bro, these are the Selatis, the males who killed Mr. T, they've been gone for some time.
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Well..... I feel..... Stupid... .LOL  Let me go sit in my corner with the big hat on and feel shame.
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(04-23-2024, 01:47 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote: Well..... I feel..... Stupid... .LOL  Let me go sit in my corner with the big hat on and feel shame.

No worries, my friend, we've all been there, trust me.
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I had a question. How old is the Selatie daughter?
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Which one? Ximhungwe should be around 11 or 12 and the talamati girl was born in 2014 so 10 years old now
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Hopefully the Talamatie lioness, will be ok and happy with her cubs. I had a question. I know the lionesses are still young; I know you said their ages are 10 and 11 or 12, but I think there has been a few lionesses in Sabi Sands that has had cubs at an older age. I do not like to think or talk about certain stuff, but everything happened so fast with the Talamatie pride and the male lion. The S8 male lion was strong and was showing his strength. They were showing their strength. I was happy looking at the pride and the sub adults of the S8 male lion and the Talamatie lioness.
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There's still time for both to have new cubs, but since having and raising cubs to adulthood is very difficult and sometimes takes multiple tries, older and nomadic females will have a hard time.
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The Four Selati brothers and the Ximhungwe pride on a buffalo kill, back in September 2012
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"The circle of life was in clear focus this morning as we came upon two other vehicles watching the lions eating the buffalo while the lionesses rested and waited their turn"

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Ximhungwe lioness (mother of the living Ximhungwe)

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Broken Tooth (#1)

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Ribs (#2)

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(#3 - #2)

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(#4 - #3)

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(#4 - #3 - #2)

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Ginger Mane (#4) went for a drink

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So did Ribs (#2)

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