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The Mighty Mapogos

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(10-15-2020, 05:02 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:




I just saw this video a couple of days ago. Not sure if those images of the cubs are actually them, but the subs most definitely are. Amazing that they had begun getting so much footage of them, before they had ever even done a thing. As the researcher said in Brothers in Blood, it's almost as if they were destined to become something big, that statement becomes more clear the more we discover.
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Mapogo Lions - check out Rhino calf








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Mr T of the Mapogo males with a purposed!
Cornering and kill the 5th Majingilane male
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Rasta of the infamous Mapogo males.
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The greatest duo of all time!
Blast from the past - The Mlowathi males 

Mr T/Satan and Kinky Tail were the most intimidating of them all, in my opinion.

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Mr T/Satan vs Kinky Tail/Shaka
The Ghost in the Darkness..

We had met the (nowadays) Mlowathi Male Lions during our previous visits to Mala Mala. They used to be called 'The Mapochos' (the Devils) as they formed a brotherhood of 5 big adult Males and as such were sheer invincible. They were seen bringing down huge prey such as rhino. On numerous occasions they have killed other lions; both male as female as well as many cubs. They have no fear .. and it shows.
 
This year's visit, 2 encounters with 2 of the brothers had a huge impact on me;
 
The first encounter was with both Males. It was already pitch dark and apparently the smell of a willing lioness was in the air. They were sizing each other up in order to determine who would be the lionesses’ date. There was restlessness and aggression in the air. At one moment we found ourselves situated between the two impressive males. One started roaring. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard a Lion’s roar up close but I can tell you it is heart stopping; especially from 3 meters away. Your whole body vibrates with those deep thunderous tones. Then the other male answered the call with his own roar. Those haunting roars, coming from both sides, as close as that, is a sound I’ll never forget.. (picture above is one of the brothers on that particular night).
 
On the second occasion, a couple of days later, ranger Dean and I had gone out during the heat of the day to try and photograph Giant Kingfishers. When after 5 minutes we stumbled upon a big herd of elephants playing and frolicking in the Sand River, the Kingfishers were forgotten :-)
 
After a while a message came in through the radio; The ‘Mohawk” Mlowathi Male was seen at the airstrip in the company of an Eyrefield Pride Lioness.. So we went to have a look.
We found them in thick bush heading towards the river. The other brother had clearly been defeated in the fight over the favours of the female and waited a bit further away. The 2 lovers went off together and we followed them as best as we could until they stopped on the sloping riverbed. Dean parked the big Landrover in front of them and we waited..
 
All of a sudden the 2 big lions stood up to have a drink in the puddle right next to the landrover. Nothing out of the ordinary in Mala Mala until the huge Mapocho suddenly turned and stepped towards the (entirely open – not even a door) Landrover until he almost touched Dean’s foot, constantly staring at us with those huge yellow eyes. His whole body all muscle and clearly aggressively demanding privacy. And the stare lasted.. and lasted… And you know, so well, it would only take one lash with that giant paw…
 
I can’t even begin to describe what goes through you in such a moment. Pure fear is probably the closest. Dean explained later that he didn’t want to start the engine as the sound might have startled the Lion, which would have made it even more dangerous. Also he wanted to stand ground as he didn't want to teach the Lion that cars were 'to be intimidated'. Later on he said bravely that he was only waiting for the clicking of my camera to save the moment for eternity. Yeah right.. I’m quite sure that he also had nothing else in his mind than survival.. (I was so completely scared stiff that I totally forgot to press that shutter!).
The Status Quo lasted and lasted and someone had to do something to clear the tension.. In the end Dean did start the engine and we backed off a little which made the Mapocho turn and join his lady… Guess he won the staring contest...
Pfuw!!!!
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Mr T/Satan and Kinky Tail a few hours before/after of the fight against the Toulon coalition.
Mr T alongside his brother Kinky tail defeated the Toulon coalition during a epic fight!
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(10-21-2020, 05:59 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Mr T/Satan vs Kinky Tail/Shaka
The Ghost in the Darkness..

We had met the (nowadays) Mlowathi Male Lions during our previous visits to Mala Mala. They used to be called 'The Mapochos' (the Devils) as they formed a brotherhood of 5 big adult Males and as such were sheer invincible. They were seen bringing down huge prey such as rhino. On numerous occasions they have killed other lions; both male as female as well as many cubs. They have no fear .. and it shows.
 
This year's visit, 2 encounters with 2 of the brothers had a huge impact on me;
 
The first encounter was with both Males. It was already pitch dark and apparently the smell of a willing lioness was in the air. They were sizing each other up in order to determine who would be the lionesses’ date. There was restlessness and aggression in the air. At one moment we found ourselves situated between the two impressive males. One started roaring. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard a Lion’s roar up close but I can tell you it is heart stopping; especially from 3 meters away. Your whole body vibrates with those deep thunderous tones. Then the other male answered the call with his own roar. Those haunting roars, coming from both sides, as close as that, is a sound I’ll never forget.. (picture above is one of the brothers on that particular night).
 
On the second occasion, a couple of days later, ranger Dean and I had gone out during the heat of the day to try and photograph Giant Kingfishers. When after 5 minutes we stumbled upon a big herd of elephants playing and frolicking in the Sand River, the Kingfishers were forgotten :-)
 
After a while a message came in through the radio; The ‘Mohawk” Mlowathi Male was seen at the airstrip in the company of an Eyrefield Pride Lioness.. So we went to have a look.
We found them in thick bush heading towards the river. The other brother had clearly been defeated in the fight over the favours of the female and waited a bit further away. The 2 lovers went off together and we followed them as best as we could until they stopped on the sloping riverbed. Dean parked the big Landrover in front of them and we waited..
 
All of a sudden the 2 big lions stood up to have a drink in the puddle right next to the landrover. Nothing out of the ordinary in Mala Mala until the huge Mapocho suddenly turned and stepped towards the (entirely open – not even a door) Landrover until he almost touched Dean’s foot, constantly staring at us with those huge yellow eyes. His whole body all muscle and clearly aggressively demanding privacy. And the stare lasted.. and lasted… And you know, so well, it would only take one lash with that giant paw…
 
I can’t even begin to describe what goes through you in such a moment. Pure fear is probably the closest. Dean explained later that he didn’t want to start the engine as the sound might have startled the Lion, which would have made it even more dangerous. Also he wanted to stand ground as he didn't want to teach the Lion that cars were 'to be intimidated'. Later on he said bravely that he was only waiting for the clicking of my camera to save the moment for eternity. Yeah right.. I’m quite sure that he also had nothing else in his mind than survival.. (I was so completely scared stiff that I totally forgot to press that shutter!).
The Status Quo lasted and lasted and someone had to do something to clear the tension.. In the end Dean did start the engine and we backed off a little which made the Mapocho turn and join his lady… Guess he won the staring contest...
Pfuw!!!!

Talk about an experience to make you feel alive, that would certainly be it. Phew, I would so love such an encounter, at least in my younger days, back when the higher the risk meant the higher the reward  Lol
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(10-08-2020, 08:26 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Sabi Sand map (Approx territories of coalitions)
the Majingilane and Matimba territories is what the Mlowathi males once dominated for over 2 years,Isn't that awesome?


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I'm not sure that the sheer scale of what those two lions did, and how much actual area the two of them controlled, isn't lost on some people. Meanwhile, the other 4 Mapogos had control of the Selati area, and benefitted from the fact that any challenges to them was going to, most likely, have to get through the Mlowathis first. I believe, at times, people's unreasonable hatred of Mr. T causes them to discount his and Kinky Tail's actual accomplishments (I will never refer to him as Satan, Satan is pure evil, Mr. T, to borrow a line from a lady researcher in Brothers in Blood, was simply trying to be the best lion he could be, in a world where there is no right and wrong, but just surviving).
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(10-21-2020, 07:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(10-21-2020, 05:59 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Mr T/Satan vs Kinky Tail/Shaka
The Ghost in the Darkness..

We had met the (nowadays) Mlowathi Male Lions during our previous visits to Mala Mala. They used to be called 'The Mapochos' (the Devils) as they formed a brotherhood of 5 big adult Males and as such were sheer invincible. They were seen bringing down huge prey such as rhino. On numerous occasions they have killed other lions; both male as female as well as many cubs. They have no fear .. and it shows.
 
This year's visit, 2 encounters with 2 of the brothers had a huge impact on me;
 
The first encounter was with both Males. It was already pitch dark and apparently the smell of a willing lioness was in the air. They were sizing each other up in order to determine who would be the lionesses’ date. There was restlessness and aggression in the air. At one moment we found ourselves situated between the two impressive males. One started roaring. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard a Lion’s roar up close but I can tell you it is heart stopping; especially from 3 meters away. Your whole body vibrates with those deep thunderous tones. Then the other male answered the call with his own roar. Those haunting roars, coming from both sides, as close as that, is a sound I’ll never forget.. (picture above is one of the brothers on that particular night).
 
On the second occasion, a couple of days later, ranger Dean and I had gone out during the heat of the day to try and photograph Giant Kingfishers. When after 5 minutes we stumbled upon a big herd of elephants playing and frolicking in the Sand River, the Kingfishers were forgotten :-)
 
After a while a message came in through the radio; The ‘Mohawk” Mlowathi Male was seen at the airstrip in the company of an Eyrefield Pride Lioness.. So we went to have a look.
We found them in thick bush heading towards the river. The other brother had clearly been defeated in the fight over the favours of the female and waited a bit further away. The 2 lovers went off together and we followed them as best as we could until they stopped on the sloping riverbed. Dean parked the big Landrover in front of them and we waited..
 
All of a sudden the 2 big lions stood up to have a drink in the puddle right next to the landrover. Nothing out of the ordinary in Mala Mala until the huge Mapocho suddenly turned and stepped towards the (entirely open – not even a door) Landrover until he almost touched Dean’s foot, constantly staring at us with those huge yellow eyes. His whole body all muscle and clearly aggressively demanding privacy. And the stare lasted.. and lasted… And you know, so well, it would only take one lash with that giant paw…
 
I can’t even begin to describe what goes through you in such a moment. Pure fear is probably the closest. Dean explained later that he didn’t want to start the engine as the sound might have startled the Lion, which would have made it even more dangerous. Also he wanted to stand ground as he didn't want to teach the Lion that cars were 'to be intimidated'. Later on he said bravely that he was only waiting for the clicking of my camera to save the moment for eternity. Yeah right.. I’m quite sure that he also had nothing else in his mind than survival.. (I was so completely scared stiff that I totally forgot to press that shutter!).
The Status Quo lasted and lasted and someone had to do something to clear the tension.. In the end Dean did start the engine and we backed off a little which made the Mapocho turn and join his lady… Guess he won the staring contest...
Pfuw!!!!

Talk about an experience to make you feel alive, that would certainly be it. Phew, I would so love such an encounter, at least in my younger days, back when the higher the risk meant the higher the reward  Lol
Totally agree with you my friend.
Going to a Safari to South Africa is on my wishlist.
Everyone who had the luck to see the Mapogo males either on a safari or at Wildearth drives are privileges people
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(10-21-2020, 08:26 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(10-08-2020, 08:26 AM)TinoArmando Wrote: Sabi Sand map (Approx territories of coalitions)
the Majingilane and Matimba territories is what the Mlowathi males once dominated for over 2 years,Isn't that awesome?


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I'm not sure that the sheer scale of what those two lions did, and how much actual area the two of them controlled, isn't lost on some people. Meanwhile, the other 4 Mapogos had control of the Selati area, and benefitted from the fact that any challenges to them was going to, most likely, have to get through the Mlowathis first. I believe, at times, people's unreasonable hatred of Mr. T causes them to discount his and Kinky Tail's actual accomplishments (I will never refer to him as Satan, Satan is pure evil, Mr. T, to borrow a line from a lady researcher in Brothers in Blood, was simply trying to be the best lion he could be, in a world where there is no right and wrong, but just surviving).
The Mapogo males showed how are the dominant lions that took it to the extreme on his behavior... To be honest. I doubt that we never can witness again an dominance like them in the Sabi Sands.
The Mlowathi males were the ones who defend the western Mapogo land for over 2 years since they split-up in the group. 
despite that they were the youngest. Them were the most intimidating of all.
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Mapogo males at Londolozi Boundary
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One of the six Mapogo males "Rasta" at Londolozi Game Reserve
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Pretty Mapogo - The phoenix!
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