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Poll: Which Continent has the top Predators??
Asia
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Which Continent has the TOP Carni/Omnivorous among Asia,Africa and America?

United States Pckts Offline
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#31

No venom for monitors and I believe komodos don't actually have venom but bacteria in their saliva.
I would assume that most would be predators would try to avoid the dragons Jaws, not all would be so lucky but it does look like a long excruciating death so even if the dragon was successful in biting a lion let's say, it probably would still have to give its life.
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(01-22-2017, 01:14 AM)Pckts Wrote: No venom for monitors and I believe komodos don't actually have venom but bacteria in their saliva.
I would assume that most would be predators would try to avoid the dragons Jaws, not all would be so lucky but it does look like a long excruciating death so even if the dragon was successful in biting a lion let's say, it probably would still have to give its life.

I do believe Komodos are venomous. Its recently come to light. Ill look into it a in a bit, but I do recall reading about it. Their saliva
is also teeming with infectious bacteria
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It's true. Back in the Old AVA, I had argued that there were no poisonous monitor lizards. I was proven wrong as new discoveries were being made.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...172650.htm
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@brotherbear:

About #33: the Komodo dragon's saliva is even his main weapon. When we see a Komodo dragon hunting a buffalo a mere bite is enough to kill the bovine... After several hours during which the lizard just follows his prey which is going to agonize and dying.

And last precision: the komodo dragon's bite force is weak, very weak. But 100% deadly.
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(01-22-2017, 01:14 AM)Pckts Wrote: so even if the dragon was successful in biting a lion let's say, it probably would still have to give its life.


The huge bite radius, sharp teeth, and critical wounds, coupled with the blood-thinning venom, mean that the already large lizard can take down much larger prey by attacking quickly, administering fatal wounds, and then simply waiting for the prey to bleed out. It’s a method that minimizes contact with the prey and lowers any chances of the lizard getting hurt. It’s called “inertia killing,” and it’s now thought that perhaps it’s a method that large, carnivorous dinosaurs also used.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/01/15/komo...k-they-do/

If dinosaur used this technique than I don't see why this method should fail in Africa.

Now, in one documentary I saw a lioness being bitten by a cobra, the poor thing struggled & was in pain but eventually recovered after 2-3 days, the point here is if a cobra could manage to bit a lion, than a dragon can bite as well. All a dragon has to do is a lay a bite & run like a goddamn bast***. Like sharks even dragons are drawn towards blood, so all the gathered dragons or the pack that is stalking on the struggling lion from a safe distance will now pounce on it & finish it off. 

Dragon use the inertia eating/killing method only when the prey is big, against smaller prey they use the ambush hunting method & that too in a pack.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...nesia.html

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besides, dragon can seriously injure a boar with just a whip from its tail. 

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In 2009,  researchers published further evidence demonstrating Komodo dragons possess a venomous bite. MRI scans of a preserved skull showed the presence of two glands in the lower jaw. The researchers extracted one of these glands from the head of a dragon in the Singapore Zoological Gardens, and found it secreted several different toxic proteins. The known functions of these proteins include inhibition of blood clotting, lowering of blood pressure, muscle paralysis, and the induction of hypothermia, leading to shock and loss of consciousness in envenomated prey.

Here is a study on Komodo dragon venom, download the full study in PDF format from the link below

http://m.pnas.org/content/106/22/8969.abstract
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I would have to agree with pockets; posts #29 and #31; in Africa the Komodo dragon would be dominated by the lion. A bite from the monitor lizard would kill a lion but not quickly enough to save himself. Once the poisonous/infectious bite is learned and known, or sensed, the lizard would be lucky to achieve a bite on the big cat.
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#38

@brotherbear:

About #37: quite agree, the Komodo dragon could not be the new apex predator of an ecosystem like the african savannah. Absolutely not. With the lions and the spotted hyenas the seat is firmly occupied...
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@Vinay you come out of the ban, and as soon as you do, you start again with the same?...

There won't be any more contemplations in this regard.
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India Vinay Offline
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( This post was last modified: 01-25-2017, 08:09 PM by Vinay )

If you have right to delete posts/ban doesn't mean what ever you said becomes true

btw i simply said his NEW President Donald Trump words on Paid idiotic MEDIA. Lol
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And I agree.

But that is completely irrelevant to the topic.

And also, you were calling wolves and some other animals "stupid"...

Is that also funny? 

Because I don't think it is. If you feel like joking, then please do so somewhere else. This isn't the place to do so.
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( This post was last modified: 01-25-2017, 09:29 PM by Vinay )

(01-25-2017, 08:48 PM)Tshokwane Wrote: And I agree.

But that is completely irrelevant to the topic.

And also, you were calling wolves and some other animals "stupid"...

Is that also funny? 

Because I don't think it is. If you feel like joking, then please do so somewhere else. This isn't the place to do so.

Stupid,idiotic,paid,presstitutes,filth etc what ever curse words i used on western MEDIA not animals .... that doesn't mean Indian/Asian media is great they all are sh**.

Now come to the point ''600 ASIANS KILLED by Asian elephants but western media highlights 10 dead by wolves/sharks but not Asians'' (animals) IS 200% RELEVANT to the post if you at-least READ the title!!! 
this isn't the place to show your INTELLECTUAL moral superiority.  Ha Ha

PS: Trump is a good man .... please at-least read the title if you are not joking here
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( This post was last modified: 01-25-2017, 11:07 PM by sanjay )

@Vinay,
This is final request for you. We know you are aggressive in your opinions and put your thoughts in some abnormal way. Public forum like WildFact is not local street to hang with your childhood friends and say anything you like. In a place where thousands of people visit daily, one should select their languages carefully. You also represents the WildFact forum as a member, so your activity is directly associated with the forum status.
We don't stop you from opposing others or disagreeing, but the words must be chosen carefully while expressing it.
We are not going to alert you any more, now the ball is in your court, you decide weather you want to live or exit from here. To be frank, I want to have you here but with above changes.
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Bill Gates is a businessman; not a scientist. The purpose of the chart is to educate on the dangers of mosquitoes. It is not a poster of the "top ten most dangerous animals" but merely several randomly picked to make his point.
                                                             
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Another creature that is dangerous to humans not on that list is actually Cows, they actually kill more people a year than sharks.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/cows-are-deadlier...1690950434

Same with Deer and Horses as well believe it or not.
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals...han-sharks
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