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Looks like since that airstrip incident, Tumbela and PCMs live in peace with each others, Tumbela mostly staying in northern parts of reserve where PCMs rearly venture, guides even hear him vocalizing occasionaly.
Looks like since that airstrip incident, Tumbela and PCMs live in peace with each others, Tumbela mostly staying in northern parts of reserve where PCMs rearly venture, guides even hear him vocalizing occasionaly.
Did that guide just said hes 11 years old? lol
Anyways great video. Tumbela is looking fine and its good that hes not having more conflicts with PCM
Looks like since that airstrip incident, Tumbela and PCMs live in peace with each others, Tumbela mostly staying in northern parts of reserve where PCMs rearly venture, guides even hear him vocalizing occasionaly.
I can never forget when the three Tumbelas came into the territory of Hairy Belly and the Othawas. They were skittish from their rough start in Kruger, but persistent, and when the contact between the two groups first started nobody even knew who they were, so much speculation taking place. I was never happier for a bloodless coupe to happen than I was in that instance. Hairy Belly, the legendary old warrior, taking on three unknown males, and never giving an inch. Even was recorded riding on top of a buffalo, helping to feed his pride, in those final days. As we have all seen countless times, such peaceful transitions are very rare, but I was never happier for one than when we all watched HB ride off into the sunset during those times.
(04-06-2024, 10:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote: I can never forget when the three Tumbelas came into the territory of Hairy Belly and the Othawas.
(04-06-2024, 10:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote: such peaceful transitions are very rare
True. Miss Scar and Limper.
They were both skinny and unhealthy yet regal looking male lions, even thought Limper barely had any mane.
I didn't follow Limper's decline, but I know that he tried to help his brother Skorro Jr to defend the territory, even in those conditions he did most of what was in his power to.
I hope the Othawa girls, daughters of the Tumbela males prosper. They have remained alive to this day even with a premature nomadic life, resilient lionesses, just like their fathers.
(04-06-2024, 10:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote: I can never forget when the three Tumbelas came into the territory of Hairy Belly and the Othawas.
(04-06-2024, 10:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote: such peaceful transitions are very rare
True. Miss Scar and Limper.
They were both skinny and unhealthy yet regal looking male lions, even thought Limper barely had any mane.
I didn't follow Limper's decline, but I know that he tried to help his brother Skorro Jr to defend the territory, even in those conditions he did most of what was in his power to.
I hope the Othawa girls, daughters of the Tumbela males prosper. They have remained alive to this day even with a premature nomadic life, resilient lionesses, just like their fathers.
The two current Othawas are quite possibly the youngest lions I can ever recall being set out on their own. When they lost the third sister early on, it was really worrisome. But these two have thrived in the face of the highest levels of adversity anyone can imagine, like the Tsalala as well. A truly amazing pair, for sure.
(04-06-2024, 10:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote: I can never forget when the three Tumbelas came into the territory of Hairy Belly and the Othawas.
(04-06-2024, 10:25 PM)BA0701 Wrote: such peaceful transitions are very rare
True. Miss Scar and Limper.
They were both skinny and unhealthy yet regal looking male lions, even thought Limper barely had any mane.
I didn't follow Limper's decline, but I know that he tried to help his brother Skorro Jr to defend the territory, even in those conditions he did most of what was in his power to.
I hope the Othawa girls, daughters of the Tumbela males prosper. They have remained alive to this day even with a premature nomadic life, resilient lionesses, just like their fathers.
The two current Othawas are quite possibly the youngest lions I can ever recall being set out on their own. When they lost the third sister early on, it was really worrisome. But these two have thrived in the face of the highest levels of adversity anyone can imagine, like the Tsalala as well. A truly amazing pair, for sure.
I keep meaning to post about it but in Namibia the “orphan” lionesses were about the Ottawa girls age when their mother was killed, their aunt rejected and was extremely aggressive toward them so they struck out on their own at roughly 1 to 1.5 years old. They ended up getting lucky and wandered toward the coast and found bird nesting colonies and they learned to stalk and hunt and lived off sea birds for their first year in their own. They technically “rediscovered “ the ocean food source. They and other lions in the vast area now hunt seals and birds like they historically used to. They are currently about 6 years old and one of the orphan lionesses has cubs!!
If anyone has seen the AMAZING “Vanishing Kings” and “Desert lions” documentary about the 5 Male desert lions. The orphan lionesses originate from the same pride…I think the same mother?
Very Very happy for the two Ottawa girls! They are legends in their own right and I hope they can raise cubs soon and have a big family again.
I was always upset with Tumbela for abandoning them and his pride. I think he was so struck by all his brothers dying, aggro Nhenha and he loved those Ximungwe girls.
I hope the Ottawa girls find good pride males that take care of them and their territory.
(04-17-2024, 07:00 PM)criollo2mil Wrote: Finally Images are surfacing of the Tumbela w Nkuhuma male.
Such awesome news, to see two of my favorite lions together again is great! I hope they stick together this time, in all honesty I believe they really need one another at this stage.
