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10-08-2020, 08:04 AM( This post was last modified: 10-08-2020, 08:05 AM by Timbavati )
The bravest male lion of Sabi Sands!
The infamous Kinky Tail/Shaka of the once powerful Mapogo coalition
Sabi Sand-GR,September 2009
credit: Kate Wooderson
Born to be a legend!
The legendary Makulu of the Mapogo coalition during a safari trip to Sabi Sands on April 2005
Sabi Sand-GR,April 2005
credit: Ozrusty
Makulu and Mr T after defeating to the Matimba males during a fight on Sabi Sands (June 2011)
Mapogos: 28 hours later after the fight
Sabi Sand-GR,June 20 2011.
credit: Khimbini Hlongwane
10-08-2020, 08:26 AM( This post was last modified: 10-08-2020, 10:57 PM by Timbavati )
Sabi Sand map (Approx territories of coalitions)
the Majingilane and Matimba territories is what the Mlowathi males once dominated for over 2 years,Isn't that awesome?
Interesting video on the single lions and coalitions that the Mapogos fought, some of whom they killed during these fights. The video is interesting because it was put out by Sabi Sand Game Reserve, and lists all of the lions and coalitions, that they are aware of, that the Mapogos fought with, the first time I had seen such a list. The list provided by them is as follows:
Nhlanguleni Male (1 Male)
Northern Coalition (4 Males)
Gwarri Bush Male (1 Male)
Dzunani Male (1 Male)
Rocky Serengeti Male (1 Male)
Nkuhuma Coalition (2 Males)
Ravenscourt Male (1 Male)
Skukuza Coalition (4 Males)
One eye and Stompie Coalition(2 Males)
Rollercoaster Male (1 Male)
Tsalala Male Solo (1 Male)
Nomadic Coalition (4 Males)
Nomadic Coalition (2 Males)
Nomadic Coalition (2 Males)
Manyeleti Coalition (2 Males)
Golf Course Coalition (2 Males)
Gijima Coalition (2 Males)
Toulon Coalition (3 Males)
Majingilane Coalition (5 Males, Day battle)
Matimba Coalition (3 Males)
Othawa Coalition (2 Males)
Selati Coalition (4 Males, two battles)
Limper KNP Male (1 Male)
Casulties:
Casulties include at least 13 fully grown Males killed by the Mapogos. It is not known exactly how many of the Skukuza Males were killed but all disappeared and at least 1 killed from the Mapogo conflict. The Western Mapogos also killed 2 Nomadic Males in 2009. The Mapogos simply were doing nature's calling and they excelled as Lions like no others have:
1 Nhlanguleni Male
1 Northern Male
1 Gwarri Bush Male
1 Dzunani Male
1 Rocky Serengeti Male
1 Skukuza Male
1 Nkuhuma Male
1 Golf Course Male
2 Nomadic Males
1 Manyeleti Male
1 Majingilane Male
1 KNP Male
(10-09-2020, 04:38 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Interesting video on the single lions and coalitions that the Mapogos fought, some of whom they killed during these fights. The video is interesting because it was put out by Sabi Sand Game Reserve, and lists all of the lions and coalitions, that they are aware of, that the Mapogos fought with, the first time I had seen such a list. The list provided by them is as follows:
Nhlanguleni Male (1 Male)
Northern Coalition (4 Males)
Gwarri Bush Male (1 Male)
Dzunani Male (1 Male)
Rocky Serengeti Male (1 Male)
Nkuhuma Coalition (2 Males)
Ravenscourt Male (1 Male)
Skukuza Coalition (4 Males)
One eye and Stompie Coalition(2 Males)
Rollercoaster Male (1 Male)
Tsalala Male Solo (1 Male)
Nomadic Coalition (4 Males)
Nomadic Coalition (2 Males)
Nomadic Coalition (2 Males)
Manyeleti Coalition (2 Males)
Golf Course Coalition (2 Males)
Gijima Coalition (2 Males)
Toulon Coalition (3 Males)
Majingilane Coalition (5 Males, Day battle)
Matimba Coalition (3 Males)
Othawa Coalition (2 Males)
Selati Coalition (4 Males, two battles)
Limper KNP Male (1 Male)
Casulties:
Casulties include at least 13 fully grown Males killed by the Mapogos. It is not known exactly how many of the Skukuza Males were killed but all disappeared and at least 1 killed from the Mapogo conflict. The Western Mapogos also killed 2 Nomadic Males in 2009. The Mapogos simply were doing nature's calling and they excelled as Lions like no others have:
1 Nhlanguleni Male
1 Northern Male
1 Gwarri Bush Male
1 Dzunani Male
1 Rocky Serengeti Male
1 Skukuza Male
1 Nkuhuma Male
1 Golf Course Male
2 Nomadic Males
1 Manyeleti Male
1 Majingilane Male
1 KNP Male
The Mapogo were really true warriors.
I doubt that we can witness again a coalition like them
10-09-2020, 04:49 AM( This post was last modified: 10-09-2020, 05:27 AM by BA0701 )
(10-09-2020, 04:40 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:
(10-09-2020, 04:38 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Interesting video on the single lions and coalitions that the Mapogos fought, some of whom they killed during these fights. The video is interesting because it was put out by Sabi Sand Game Reserve, and lists all of the lions and coalitions, that they are aware of, that the Mapogos fought with, the first time I had seen such a list. The list provided by them is as follows:
Nhlanguleni Male (1 Male)
Northern Coalition (4 Males)
Gwarri Bush Male (1 Male)
Dzunani Male (1 Male)
Rocky Serengeti Male (1 Male)
Nkuhuma Coalition (2 Males)
Ravenscourt Male (1 Male)
Skukuza Coalition (4 Males)
One eye and Stompie Coalition(2 Males)
Rollercoaster Male (1 Male)
Tsalala Male Solo (1 Male)
Nomadic Coalition (4 Males)
Nomadic Coalition (2 Males)
Nomadic Coalition (2 Males)
Manyeleti Coalition (2 Males)
Golf Course Coalition (2 Males)
Gijima Coalition (2 Males)
Toulon Coalition (3 Males)
Majingilane Coalition (5 Males, Day battle)
Matimba Coalition (3 Males)
Othawa Coalition (2 Males)
Selati Coalition (4 Males, two battles)
Limper KNP Male (1 Male)
Casulties:
Casulties include at least 13 fully grown Males killed by the Mapogos. It is not known exactly how many of the Skukuza Males were killed but all disappeared and at least 1 killed from the Mapogo conflict. The Western Mapogos also killed 2 Nomadic Males in 2009. The Mapogos simply were doing nature's calling and they excelled as Lions like no others have:
1 Nhlanguleni Male
1 Northern Male
1 Gwarri Bush Male
1 Dzunani Male
1 Rocky Serengeti Male
1 Skukuza Male
1 Nkuhuma Male
1 Golf Course Male
2 Nomadic Males
1 Manyeleti Male
1 Majingilane Male
1 KNP Male
The Mapogo were really true warriors.
I doubt that we can witness again a coalition like them
Agreed, a true wrecking crew, and when you realize that a lot of that damage was done by just two of them, the Mlowathis, makes it even crazier. However, the Majingilanes ruled for a really long time as well, and they destroyed a lot of lions as well. I have often wondered how things might have been different, had the 5th not been killed by KT and Mr T. My interest in lions was spurned by the Mapogos, and a random video popping up in my YT feed.
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(10-09-2020, 04:38 AM)BA0701 Wrote: Interesting video on the single lions and coalitions that the Mapogos fought, some of whom they killed during these fights. The video is interesting because it was put out by Sabi Sand Game Reserve, and lists all of the lions and coalitions, that they are aware of, that the Mapogos fought with, the first time I had seen such a list. The list provided by them is as follows:
Nhlanguleni Male (1 Male)
Northern Coalition (4 Males)
Gwarri Bush Male (1 Male)
Dzunani Male (1 Male)
Rocky Serengeti Male (1 Male)
Nkuhuma Coalition (2 Males)
Ravenscourt Male (1 Male)
Skukuza Coalition (4 Males)
One eye and Stompie Coalition(2 Males)
Rollercoaster Male (1 Male)
Tsalala Male Solo (1 Male)
Nomadic Coalition (4 Males)
Nomadic Coalition (2 Males)
Nomadic Coalition (2 Males)
Manyeleti Coalition (2 Males)
Golf Course Coalition (2 Males)
Gijima Coalition (2 Males)
Toulon Coalition (3 Males)
Majingilane Coalition (5 Males, Day battle)
Matimba Coalition (3 Males)
Othawa Coalition (2 Males)
Selati Coalition (4 Males, two battles)
Limper KNP Male (1 Male)
Casulties:
Casulties include at least 13 fully grown Males killed by the Mapogos. It is not known exactly how many of the Skukuza Males were killed but all disappeared and at least 1 killed from the Mapogo conflict. The Western Mapogos also killed 2 Nomadic Males in 2009. The Mapogos simply were doing nature's calling and they excelled as Lions like no others have:
1 Nhlanguleni Male
1 Northern Male
1 Gwarri Bush Male
1 Dzunani Male
1 Rocky Serengeti Male
1 Skukuza Male
1 Nkuhuma Male
1 Golf Course Male
2 Nomadic Males
1 Manyeleti Male
1 Majingilane Male
1 KNP Male
The Mapogo were really true warriors.
I doubt that we can witness again a coalition like them
Agreed, a true wrecking crew, and when you realize that a lot of that damage was done by just two of them, the Mlowathis, makes it even crazier. However, the Majingilanes ruled for a really long time as well, and they destroyed a lot of lions as well. I have often wondered how things might have been different, had the 5th not been killed by KT and Mr T. My interest in lions was spruned by the Mapogos, and a random video popping up in my YT feed.
The Majingilane were also killing machines,However,If we look that the Mlowathi males conquered almost entire Sabi Sands for 2 years it makes them very special,especially when even the Matimbas (HB & Ginger) weren't able to dominanted it for that long...
The ppl thinks that the Mapogo males doesn't deserve any kind of put as one of the best coalitions of "SS" for the simply fact that they didn't left much legacy,However,I really admire them for that they have do and not for how many sons they left
10-14-2020, 06:22 AM( This post was last modified: 10-14-2020, 07:28 AM by BA0701 )
Another interesting video, recently released by the Sabi Sands Game Reserve, documenting the fights between Makhulu, Pretty Boy, and the KNP boys, Freddy, and Limper. I had read of the fight, but never came across the details explained in this video, particularly that Makhulu killed Limper. The information I had previously come across, explained that the fight had taken place, and that is where Makhulu got the new scars under his left eye, but not much beyond that. Another interesting thing is I was unaware of just how big Freddy and Limper were, they look massive in this video.
Just like our Lion Stories thread, I really enjoy watching and reading these old stories that are only recently being brought to light, especially when it concerns the lions that started my interest in wanting to learn more about these magnificent creatures, The Mapogos.
