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Talamati/Msutlu Pride
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THE HISTORY OF THE TALAMATI LION PRIDE
BY ARATHUSA SAFARI LODGE The lion dynamics are constantly changing out here in the bush. We take you through the history of the Talamati Pride… Originally part of the Nkuhuma Pride, the Talamati Pride of lions broke away from the Nkuhumas in 2007 when the Mapogo males took over from the Manyeleti males. They established territory further north, where the females started mating with the old Nkuhuma males. The two oldest lionesses in the Talamati pride – one of which is blind in one eye (known as Silver-eye) – were born from the union. The Talamati Pride was officially named in 2011 after the Talamati Bushveld Camp (Talamati means ‘lots of water’ in Xitsonga). Here’s a brief history since then…
In 2021, the Imbali takeover occurred. The Imbali male sensed that Dark Mane was alone and attempted to claim the Talamati Pride as his own. During this takeover, 2 females were killed by the Imbali males and 1 male lion disappeared. This takeover caused the Talamati Pride to split in two, which is how we see them today. Talamati Main Pride
There are 4 lionesses and 2 young males. The silver-eyed female has been on her own for a while now, but when she joins the pride there are 5 lionesses. The Talamati Main Pride has moved more to the area west-south-west of Arathusa. Dark Mane is also occasionally found with these Talamatis. Talamati Breakaway Pride
The Talamati breakaways are comprised of 3 females with 5 cubs. They are located in south Manyeleti, Buffelshoek and the far northern part of Djuma. The S8 male is the father of all the cubs, and is responsible for the safety of those cubs and the females. He looks after the territory on which they currently reside.
January 2014
The Talamati pride which move between Manyeleti & Kruger...the most beautiful females I think I have ever seen!! Felt very privelaged...as they only see them roughly once a month...& they chose yesterday to come to within 800m of the lodge, we spent over an hour with them ♡ Photo credits and writing: Drew Abrahamson  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author
October 2016
Selati offspring - Tintswalo Safari Lodge Talamati pride at Tintswalo Safari Lodge Photo credits: Darren Donovan  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author
 (05-23-2024, 11:00 PM)T I N O Wrote: October 2016 Thank you, for these, @T I N O, a most welcomed edition to this thread.  (05-23-2024, 10:50 PM)T I N O Wrote: In 2021, the Imbali takeover occurred. The Imbali male sensed that Dark Mane was alone and attempted to claim the Talamati Pride as his own. During this takeover, 2 females were killed by the Imbali males and 1 male lion disappeared. This takeover caused the Talamati Pride to split in two, which is how we see them today. Arathusa has a few details wrong, let me provide caveat and context: (05-23-2024, 10:50 PM)T I N O Wrote: During this takeover, 2 females were killed by the Imbali males and 1 male lion disappeared. 1 Female and 1 Male Sub adult offsprings of the Avocas Disappeared. no Adults were killed by S8 Male. Not sure where that comes from. (05-23-2024, 10:50 PM)T I N O Wrote: [*]4 Lionesses: Born late 2018/early 2019, sired by Avoca males They are missing the Sister of Silver Eye also born Appx 2007/08 and Also are missing one Avoca Daughter. in 2021, there were 5 Sub Adult Females in this group. (05-23-2024, 10:50 PM)T I N O Wrote: There are 4 lionesses and 2 young males. The silver-eyed female has been on her own for a while now, but when she joins the pride there are 5 lionesses. as stated above, their numbers are off for the 2021 Period. After the takeover of S8 of the three Talamati females , the Talamati larger group Consisted of: 2 Lionesses (Silvereye and Sister), 5 Avoca daughters and 2 Avoca Sons. in April of 2022, one of the Avoca Daughters known as Stompie disappeared. Later towards the end of that Year, Silvereye went away to live her final days. About a year Later, her sister did the Same and Left us around October 2023. We then saw the Two Sons of Avocas finallyleave their sisters. Sadly, The Larger Maned boy disappeared in December 2023. Leaving 4 Avoca daughters alive that would ultimately comprise the Msuthlu Pride today.    (05-29-2024, 05:04 AM)Go131810 Wrote:(05-29-2024, 12:15 AM)Friarfan619 Wrote: This the ym him and his brother attacked???" target="_blank" class="post_link"> Hi I do not understand. The Talamatie male lion attacked somebody? I had read this is the young Talamatie male lion and the young Nukhuma male lion. Him (Talamati male) and his missing bother attacked the young Nkuhuma male he's seen with in this sighting a while back.
So the talamati male here and his brother who is missing attacked the young male who he’s standing next too I believe 6 months ago but honestly I think it was more of his brother attacking the young male
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