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 (01-26-2019, 06:21 PM)Spalea Wrote:(01-26-2019, 04:15 PM)Pantherinae Wrote:(01-26-2019, 03:49 PM)Spalea Wrote: @Pantherinae :100%, but hyenas have the same problem that they only have their jaws, but they are stronger than a wolf at the same weight imo. There is many that belives a wolf could compeate with a Hyena one on one which imo is ludicrous. That is why I say, I feel they are overrated. Still a formidable animal, but it is in packs they are one of the most dangerous animal. Yes I know you did, I just compared them, as you mentioned the wolves are only having the jaws to fight with the same as the hyena, only the hyenas being tougher. Yes the hyenas aren exatly acobatic they are mostly buildt to be tough and heavy at the back. And yes jackals would be stupid to try nipping at a wolf. Wolves are insanely fast too! Can’t wait to hear it :) 
My main unpopular opinion is that the crocodile is an overrated hunter. I've seen many videos of prey waltzing virtually millimeters away and even on a croc, and the croc doesn't manage to clamp on or if it does, doesn't manage to execute the kill. They seem very inefficient which ultimately doesn't matter due to the volume of prey. Though I confess I haven't yet looked into success rates, this is an observation I've made.
Even if there are Arabian leopards (see this thread) in Wadi Wurayah in the UAE section of the Hajar Mountains, bordering northern Oman, it's hard to verify that claim: https://outdooruae.com/articles/hiking-t...n-the-uae/
Suffice to say that a footprint of a leopard was photographed by D. Egan in a shallow rock cave in the wadi in 2004: http://www.catsg.org/fileadmin/fileshari...pdf#page=2 
I think that there still are barbary lions , atlas leopard and bear in some remote areas of north africa.
In my honest opinion, in terms of predation feats, the puma beats the leopard.
This is my personal opinion. I belive the most powerful prey a single lion can kill are
(05-08-2020, 03:57 AM)Asad981 Wrote: In my honest opinion, in terms of predation feats, the puma beats the leopard. 1. Depends on the area. However, the biggest ungulate Leopards have killed are Eland Cows, which are equal to or bigger than the Shiras Moose that Cougars have killed. 2. Speaking of Asiatic Lions killing domestic Buffalo, Leopards have also killed adult Water Buffalo (albeit in the lower age class).  *This image is copyright of its original author Miller et. al. (2015) "Livestock losses and hotspots of attack from tigers and leopards in Kanha Tiger Reserve, Central India" For Water Buffalo ages, I searched up growth stages, I found these: "According to their age and sex, the animals were divided into four i.e. A1 (young male, 1 - 2 years), A2(young female, 1 - 2 years), B1 (adult male, 3 - 6 years) and B2 (adult female 3 - 6 years)." PANHWAR et. al. 2007 "Gross Anatomical Studies on Normal Heart of Buffalo (Bubalus bubalis)"  (06-11-2018, 11:41 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Pantherinae :
In my own honest opinion and from what have witness being from a particular place in Africa, I believe the leopard is indeed the most strongest cat alive pound for pound then comes the tiger after that.
It's might be the smallest of the big cat but make no mistake as it's power to weight ratio is astonishing and insane to say the least. I mean it's not everyday you see a cat lift a prey more than it's own weight up a vertical tree like there's no effort being put into it. 
An interesting and not biased video about this subject: tigers free in the African savvanah, what would be happen ?
 (09-30-2021, 01:49 PM)Spalea Wrote: An interesting and not biased video about this subject: tigers free in the African savvanah, what would be happen ? Good video. I am skeptical about the likelihood of success of Tiger Canyon’s stated aim to introduce wild tigers to Africa, and feel the project has more to do with tourism than it does with conservation. To thrive in Africa and stand a chance against prides of lions or large clans of hyenas, tigers would have to transition to being a social animal. Their fondness for water would also be a great weakness, so they would have to become largely water-avoidant. In short…they would essentially have to adapt to become like lions. Tiger Canyon isn’t a great example of tigers thriving in Africa, as they are in a much more controlled environment, absent of conflict and competition (other than between the tigers themselves, of course). If lions and hyenas were to be introduced…I think it would get very ugly for the tigers.
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About #40: agree with what you say. Tiger is a discreet animal, compared to the lions... I cannot imagine how it could support daily-life in Africa savannah. The coexistance with other big predators isn't at all a matter of physical features. As the author's video says, "Tiger Canyon" is only a sort of attraction park, closed to the public, where a few tigers, cheetahs and, by way of potential preys, infortunates wildebeests, gazelles and ostrichs were released.
I know this is technically a domestic animal, but pitbulls should not owned by normal people. Only people certified to take care of dangerous breeds or other vicious animals.
They are aggressive and can maul people as well as other animals to death.  (10-05-2021, 02:20 AM)LandSeaLion Wrote: To thrive in Africa and stand a chance against prides of lions or large clans of hyenas, tigers would have to transition to being a social animal. Their fondness for water would also be a great weakness, so they would have to become largely water-avoidant. In short…they would essentially have to adapt to become like lions. This statment shows how marvelous is nature and I am fully agree with it. Basically, if you have a "X" big cat, and you put it in close habitat with large but low density prey, abundant water and few competitors, you will get the solitary tiger. But if you put the same "X" big cat in an open habitat with large high density prey, few water and plenty of social competitors, you will get the social lion. Nature is about adaptations, and like LandSeaLion says, the tiger in Africa will need to became a "lion" to survive, because that is what nature have done with the original "X" big cat. And we saw that in the Indian lion, they are not as social as African lions, they live in small prides with relatively low density prey (that is why they are habitual domestic cattle killers) and they avoid the close areas of the Indian subcontinent. How knows what would happen to lions in India in a couple of millions years (without humans of course), after all we saw it with the cave "lion-like" felids of the Pleistocene, they trive from Europe to North America thanks to the open sabana-like habitat and giant prey, but when climate changed and forest arise, they could not adapt and got exting in all the planet! (10-05-2021, 02:20 AM)LandSeaLion Wrote:I think you make some great points but one thing to keep in mind is that Tigers do live with crocodiles lurking in the waters and the Tigers still have no problem swimming around them or even confront them INSIDE the water on some occasions and even taking prey away from them(09-30-2021, 01:49 PM)Spalea Wrote: An interesting and not biased video about this subject: tigers free in the African savvanah, what would be happen ? The Sundarban Tigers (which are almost half the size of Bengal Tigers of the mainland) swim a lot in the same water where even saltwater crocodiles are often lurking around. Yet we don't hear of many cases of Tigers being prey to them or changing their behaviour because of their presence. In fact, there is only one case of a female Tigress being killed by a saltwater crocodile that I have seen.
First of all, I think that Lions and Tigers living in the same habitat will end really bad for one of the species.
The Tigers would either lose their lives to prides of Lions or they would just survive in the beginning and then later they may adapt and become social and THEN THRIVE. But if that happens then that's really bad news for Lions because the Tigers would likely claim their territories and start to slaughter them in territorial fights. With that said, I also think that their survival before adapting like this would be difficult unless they stay away from Lion territories and then later start to take over as they adapt and get social. Another challenge for Tigers would be hunting prey, there's a lot less cover for thier typical stealth tactic in the savannah and Tigers probably can't chase prey as good as Lions. In such a situation, African buffaloes would become their primary prey and they could potentially even prey on Rhinos or young elephants as long as they are in groups like Lions as we have seen some reported cases of Tigers preying on Rhinos and even elephants in India. But again, that probably only happens with stealth. |
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