There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
As it was said, 2/4 Sopa boys from Oloolaimutia pride - sons of the Mandevus' coalition - entered into his territory but he chased out them successfully. Here are the boys:
*This image is copyright of its original author
Credit: Angie Thompson
Some more about these mysterious boys - they're settled down and living at a rare sighted area with Olooloitikoshi pride around Cottar's lodge and Oloolamutian pride at Olderkesi Conservancy with young cubs now. This is far down the south-eastern parts of Masai Mara Reserve close to Sand River but sometimes they're crossing to the Serengeti as well, like their fathers (Chungwa&Droppy) did it as it's supposed.
They should be the oldest sons of the Mandevus from Sopa pride in 2019. There were so many cubs then subadults in this pride in early 2020's with many male subadults as well, but it's unknown how many of them have survived since then. In any case, it seems these boys are building up as a coalition of 4 brothers.
3 of them:
*This image is copyright of its original author
Credit: Josh Oloshipa
All 4
One of them has a blind eye, but they are already impressive young males anyway.
(07-02-2024, 11:58 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Is Koshoke blind in his right eye, or perhaps have a crossed eye?
No, he isn't blind, only Chongo is one eyed in da coalition. As far as i know, lions (and big cats) can roll both of their eyes independently from their another for a bit/limit, but correct me if i'm wrong.
07-03-2024, 12:49 AM( This post was last modified: 07-03-2024, 12:50 AM by BA0701 )
(07-03-2024, 12:47 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote:
(07-02-2024, 11:58 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Is Koshoke blind in his right eye, or perhaps have a crossed eye?
No, he isn't blind, only Chongo is one eyed in da coalition. As far as i know, lions (and big cats) can roll both of their eyes independently from their another for a bit/limit, but correct me if i'm wrong.
Oh, I have no idea about that, your comment is the first time of my hearing they can move their eyes independently, so I wouldn't be the one to correct on that. Thank you, for your answer though.
(07-02-2024, 11:58 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Is Koshoke blind in his right eye, or perhaps have a crossed eye?
No, he isn't blind, only Chongo is one eyed in da coalition. As far as i know, lions (and big cats) can roll both of their eyes independently from their another for a bit/limit, but correct me if i'm wrong.
Oh, I have no idea about that, your comment is the first time of my hearing they can move their eyes independently, so I wouldn't be the one to correct on that. Thank you, for your answer though.
I also don't have so much knowledge about this, i'm just basing my opinion mostly on that i've seen many pictures of lions those eyeballs split and were in two different directions a bit. But i wouldn't dare to say that they can move or roll their eyeballs two directions as well, that could be possible their eyeballs just stand apart two different directions on these pictures but they couldn't move or roll them in such way.
2 new unfamiliar males most probably from the Serengeti in Mara's South-Eastern parts who are Olderkesi's new rulers for now officially. It is presumed they might expelled the 4 young Sopa boys (sons of the Mandevus', in a previous post) out from Olderkesi Conservancy, who thus try their luck some elsewhere areas, for example in Orkirikoi's and Survey pride's territory for last time.
Also said, these 2 new boys have been frequently seen around Siana lately.
Look on the bigger maned male, he has a beautiful mane, elbow tufts and he even has a small hair on his belly too, very impressive even in his such young age.
07-07-2024, 04:21 AM( This post was last modified: 07-07-2024, 04:25 AM by Lipstick2 )
Lemoniko as a nomad now (very likely)
Still no news on his last brother Kylia, and since then - and Lenchada's demise - he doesn't have so much luck and chance against the Rekero pride's new dominant boys Kijana and Olchore (seemingly) as the Rekero girls also left him alone. They started their journey from the Sankai pride as a coalition of 4 young males, now it seems he's the only surviving member...very unlucky history
Otherwise, Kijana and Olchore are doing well, most Rekero lionesses are with them already. Kijana - younger Black Rock Boy - hunted and eating a buffalo at Lookout area:
Olchore contact calling to his coalition mate:
TBT - a great picture of ex-Rongai pride male Jagged Ear from 2018, father of Olchore. He and his brother Floppy Ear ruled Rongai pride for years before 5 young Black Rock Boys arriving.
07-07-2024, 07:51 PM( This post was last modified: 07-07-2024, 07:52 PM by BA0701 )
(07-07-2024, 03:57 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: 2 new unfamiliar males most probably from the Serengeti in Mara's South-Eastern parts who are Olderkesi's new rulers for now officially. It is presumed they might expelled the 4 young Sopa boys (sons of the Mandevus', in a previous post) out from Olderkesi Conservancy, who thus try their luck some elsewhere areas, for example in Orkirikoi's and Survey pride's territory for last time.
Also said, these 2 new boys have been frequently seen around Siana lately.
Look on the bigger maned male, he has a beautiful mane, elbow tufts and he even has a small hair on his belly too, very impressive even in his such young age.
Is it known, or even surmised on his age? He appears to be a prime male to my untrained eyes. Regardless of age, he is a gorgeous male, and an absolute tank!
(07-07-2024, 03:57 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: 2 new unfamiliar males most probably from the Serengeti in Mara's South-Eastern parts who are Olderkesi's new rulers for now officially. It is presumed they might expelled the 4 young Sopa boys (sons of the Mandevus', in a previous post) out from Olderkesi Conservancy, who thus try their luck some elsewhere areas, for example in Orkirikoi's and Survey pride's territory for last time.
Also said, these 2 new boys have been frequently seen around Siana lately.
Look on the bigger maned male, he has a beautiful mane, elbow tufts and he even has a small hair on his belly too, very impressive even in his such young age.
Is it known, or even surmised on his age? He appears to be a prime male to my untrained eyes. Regardless of age, he is a gorgeous male, and an absolute tank!
Based on his appearance, he must be at least 4 and at most 5 years old. He's still so young, looking on his mane which is still so light and blondish, and you can see his features will mature and develope very much. He's not in his prime yet, but he resembles very much to a bit younger Seenka and his father young Olerai (who was originated from the area, as it's presumed btw so maybe this similarity is not a coincidence). I agree with you, if he looks so good at such young age, he will make an extremely impressive male lion as an adult.
07-08-2024, 09:03 PM( This post was last modified: 07-08-2024, 09:04 PM by Hello )
(07-07-2024, 07:51 PM)BA0701 Wrote:
(07-07-2024, 03:57 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: 2 new unfamiliar males most probably from the Serengeti in Mara's South-Eastern parts who are Olderkesi's new rulers for now officially. It is presumed they might expelled the 4 young Sopa boys (sons of the Mandevus', in a previous post) out from Olderkesi Conservancy, who thus try their luck some elsewhere areas, for example in Orkirikoi's and Survey pride's territory for last time.
Also said, these 2 new boys have been frequently seen around Siana lately.
Look on the bigger maned male, he has a beautiful mane, elbow tufts and he even has a small hair on his belly too, very impressive even in his such young age.
Is it known, or even surmised on his age? He appears to be a prime male to my untrained eyes. Regardless of age, he is a gorgeous male, and an absolute tank!
My guess is between 4-5.5 years
The following 1 user Likes Hello's post:1 user Likes Hello's post • BA0701
(07-07-2024, 03:57 AM)Lipstick2 Wrote: 2 new unfamiliar males most probably from the Serengeti in Mara's South-Eastern parts who are Olderkesi's new rulers for now officially. It is presumed they might expelled the 4 young Sopa boys (sons of the Mandevus', in a previous post) out from Olderkesi Conservancy, who thus try their luck some elsewhere areas, for example in Orkirikoi's and Survey pride's territory for last time.
Also said, these 2 new boys have been frequently seen around Siana lately.
Look on the bigger maned male, he has a beautiful mane, elbow tufts and he even has a small hair on his belly too, very impressive even in his such young age.
Is it known, or even surmised on his age? He appears to be a prime male to my untrained eyes. Regardless of age, he is a gorgeous male, and an absolute tank!
Some more photos of them, the bigger one with hairy belly reminds me a bit of the late legend Olerai.
*This image is copyright of its original author
*This image is copyright of its original author
Thank to Dennis Koshal (Mara Predator Conservation Programme)
Marsh boy Orkirikoi, Survey pride male and their solo protector now as his coalition partner Kichwa son Oloborani had just vanished without any trace..
Although he's definitely being Survey pride male, he also mates with Black Rock Breakaway girl(s) recently