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@"TtimemarIt'd PCM "hate" other males offspring, but are very affectionate towards their own cubs, some of the most caring lion fathers we've seen.
We have seen smaller PCM grooming the Ximhungwe cubs multiple times ( even in his last visit a few days ago ), and hugging them as well. Bigger male is a bit less caring but also very tolerant and has been seen playing with Mangheni cubs.
Even if we count only sightings we have had and not assume they met again without we knowing, there's not even a year since they were last seen together.
It'd be a huge surprise if PCM shows any hostility towards them, I doubt they will, at least until the male sub is old enough to get ousted.
Tumbela and Othawas are a good comparison here, just because Tumbela abandoned the pride/was forced to and we didn't see him with his daughters for months, it didn't mean he would had "forgotten" they are his offspring and therefore he didn't attack them ( quite the opposite ).
We haven’t seen them with the nkuhuma breakaways in so long they didn’t help ridgenose like nhenha and tinyo did with the tsalala female they probably didn’t care but they won’t kill them I don’t think but I’m not 100% sure on that
05-29-2024, 03:37 AM( This post was last modified: 05-29-2024, 09:19 PM by Mapokser )
With the 3 adult Nkuhuma males mating in Rhino Post, things will get interesting there, especially if their fathers rejoin them. Maybe reason he split was because he was getting outcompeted by his younger, stronger sons?
As a 4 male coalition, depending on their confidence levels, they'd be a threat to the Nkhulus in the near future, especially considering how the lioness is quite possibly a Plains Camp one, of a pride that the Nkuhulus at the very least must have some of the females under their control.
Nkhulu are most of the time hanging out in small numbers of 1-3, and we know most of them probably have some disease, reason why they're bullied by the Gijimas who are only 2, so for them it'd be good to send a strong message to the NK boys ASAP.
05-29-2024, 04:53 AM( This post was last modified: 05-29-2024, 04:54 AM by KM600 )
(05-29-2024, 03:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: With the 3 adult Nkuhuma males mating in Rhino Post, things will get interesting there, especially if their fathers rejoin them. Maybe reason he split was because he was getting outcompeted by his younger, stronger sons?
I’d seen some comments from people claiming the Nkuhuma boys had been mating but wasn’t sure if it was confirmed. Not so sure Mohawk would already be getting outcompeted by his sons yet, although Ridge Nose son and Chelas son seem to be very big males. The remaining twin however is noticeably smaller compared to the others, so I’d still favour Mohawk on dominating him for mating rights etc. It certainly is weird if he’s made his way back knowing they’re not tagging along, however.
(05-29-2024, 03:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: With the 3 adult Nkuhuma males mating in Rhino Post, things will get interesting there, especially if their fathers rejoin them. Maybe reason he split was because he was getting outcompeted by his younger, stronger sons?
As a 4 male coalition, depending on their confidence levels, they'd be a threat to the Nkhulus in the near future, especially considering how the lioness is quite possibly a Plains Camp one, of a pride that the Nkuhulus are least must have some of the females at their control.
Nkhulu are most of the time hanging small numbers of 1-3, and we know most of them probably have some disease, reason why they're bullied by the Gijimas who are only 2, so for them it'd be good to send a strong message to the NK boys ASAP.
I had just seen a post of Mohawk male lion being on in the South close to the Southern Avoca male lion. Now Mohawk is seen in the West? Hopefully he could go back but it is strange how he returned alone and moved alone. It is interesting seeing the young Mukhuma male lion with the young Talamatie male lion. I wonder what could have happened if the older Nukhuma male lions had returned would they have spend time with the young Nukhuma male lion and or with the young Talamatie male lion?
(05-29-2024, 03:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: With the 3 adult Nkuhuma males mating in Rhino Post, things will get interesting there, especially if their fathers rejoin them. Maybe reason he split was because he was getting outcompeted by his younger, stronger sons?
As a 4 male coalition, depending on their confidence levels, they'd be a threat to the Nkhulus in the near future, especially considering how the lioness is quite possibly a Plains Camp one, of a pride that the Nkuhulus are least must have some of the females at their control.
Nkhulu are most of the time hanging small numbers of 1-3, and we know most of them probably have some disease, reason why they're bullied by the Gijimas who are only 2, so for them it'd be good to send a strong message to the NK boys ASAP.
I had just seen a post of Mohawk male lion being on in the South close to the Southern Avoca male lion. Now Mohawk is seen in the West? Hopefully he could go back but it is strange how he returned alone and moved alone. It is interesting seeing the young Mukhuma male lion with the young Talamatie male lion. I wonder what could have happened if the older Nukhuma male lions had returned would they have spend time with the young Nukhuma male lion and or with the young Talamatie male lion?
Mohawk was not in the west...he is in the North...seen on Djuma today on WE live.
(05-29-2024, 03:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: With the 3 adult Nkuhuma males mating in Rhino Post, things will get interesting there, especially if their fathers rejoin them. Maybe reason he split was because he was getting outcompeted by his younger, stronger sons?
As a 4 male coalition, depending on their confidence levels, they'd be a threat to the Nkhulus in the near future, especially considering how the lioness is quite possibly a Plains Camp one, of a pride that the Nkuhulus are least must have some of the females at their control.
Nkhulu are most of the time hanging small numbers of 1-3, and we know most of them probably have some disease, reason why they're bullied by the Gijimas who are only 2, so for them it'd be good to send a strong message to the NK boys ASAP.
Good news, i dont think Nkhulus territory span to Rhino Post, i think their territory spans south from Kirkmans Kamp.
So this territory is prob unoccupied , although 3 Imbalis should be close towards east and Leeupan, they where seen not long ago in southern MM, so they traversed near this area.
05-29-2024, 10:53 PM( This post was last modified: 05-30-2024, 01:19 AM by Mapokser )
Rhino Post is PC territory, no? I remember their lodge was the one to share photos and videos of the PCM as cubs with their mother.
S.Avocas were dominant over PC pride and were ousted by Nkhulus. Many Nkhulus spend lots of their time in Kruger and have been seen with lioneses on multiple occasions, females that are not from the SRP, but logically speaking would be from the PCP since it's the other pride from the males they defeated.
I've only seen 2 Imbalis together since a long time, are all 3 accounted for?
(05-29-2024, 10:18 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Good news, i dont think Nkhulus territory span to Rhino Post, i think their territory spans south from Kirkmans Kamp.
It does.
They may not be dominants of the whole area (obviously) but a guide that keeps in touch with a friend of mine has already seen Snip Tail and Sand River Pride in Rhino Concession (where Mohawk and Nks were seen in some occasions)
Also, that area borders Kirkman's Kamp and Mala Mala and as we know, much of KK is Nkhulu territory, and they are often mentioned in the latest monthly MalaMala reports.
Smudge Nkhulu (#1) was seen in Rhino Walking Safari today by the same guide i mentioned.
