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Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides

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(08-15-2020, 03:29 PM)Selati Wrote: Vuyela Males are still nomadic. Black Dam Male was last seen at Orpen Gate in the Kruger.

Are there any prides under the Nharu's control?
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(08-15-2020, 08:49 PM)Cath2020 Wrote:
(08-15-2020, 03:29 PM)Selati Wrote: Vuyela Males are still nomadic. Black Dam Male was last seen at Orpen Gate in the Kruger.

Are there any prides under the Nharu's control?
Nharhus are dominant over River pride.
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Yes, thanks.  Just finding out now about them while watching Sofa Safari 41.  They lost 5 out of 6 cubs.  The males are sticking around still and getting easy kills from the lionesses.
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Map of the Lions of Klaserie

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I've tried to update my map of Kruger to be as up to date as possible. I've added the Masorini Males and moved the Leeubron Males further south, as from reports they have moved further south down the S36.

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(09-02-2020, 03:51 PM)Selati Wrote: I've tried to update my map of Kruger to be as up to date as possible. I've added the Masorini Males and moved the Leeubron Males further south, as from reports they have moved further south down the S36.

Thank you for this @Selati Nice work my friend!
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I've updated my map due to the return of the Mluwati Males to the Mluwati Concession and the Hamilton's Male moving further north to the S145.

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Map of the Far South Section of the Kruger

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It's amazing, all the lion coalitions and prides I see on these maps here, yet we never see most of those lions in any of the formal video clips put out by the reserves or parks.... Just mostly about a handful of coalitions/prides.... 

Just saw a recent short clip for the first time of the Southern Avoca males affectionately with their cub.

The northern part of KNP is one vast area of no rangers or parks?  Are there many lions up there?  I see a couple of coalitions designated on the map, but that's it.  Do the lions up there roam down south far or vice versa?  Or do they mostly keep within a reasonable range from mid to northern sections of the park?
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(09-10-2020, 02:13 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: It's amazing, all the lion coalitions and prides I see on these maps here, yet we never see most of those lions in any of the formal video clips put out by the reserves or parks.... Just mostly about a handful of coalitions/prides.... 

Just saw a recent short clip for the first time of the Southern Avoca males affectionately with their cub.

The northern part of KNP is one vast area of no rangers or parks?  Are there many lions up there?  I see a couple of coalitions designated on the map, but that's it.  Do the lions up there roam down south far or vice versa?  Or do they mostly keep within a reasonable range from mid to northern sections of the park?
The Kruger operates very differently from the private reserves connected to it, ie Timbavati, Sabi Sands etc. The private preserves put out updates on lions and leopards, likely to attract visitors. The Kruger itself is state run, but does have private concessions within it, such as the Jock Concession and Singita Lembobo. They have a series of their own roads which you aren't allowed to go on unless you are staying at the private lodge. These private concessions also give updates. But the rest of Kruger is state run and they get lots of visitors anyway due to how famous Kruger is. In terms of the northern parts of Kruger, there are less roads there, so its more difficult to get a picture on dynamics. It's also more forested than the southern and mid parts of Kruger, making it Elephant country.
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(09-10-2020, 02:30 PM)Selati Wrote:
(09-10-2020, 02:13 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: It's amazing, all the lion coalitions and prides I see on these maps here, yet we never see most of those lions in any of the formal video clips put out by the reserves or parks.... Just mostly about a handful of coalitions/prides.... 

Just saw a recent short clip for the first time of the Southern Avoca males affectionately with their cub.

The northern part of KNP is one vast area of no rangers or parks?  Are there many lions up there?  I see a couple of coalitions designated on the map, but that's it.  Do the lions up there roam down south far or vice versa?  Or do they mostly keep within a reasonable range from mid to northern sections of the park?
The Kruger operates very differently from the private reserves connected to it, ie Timbavati, Sabi Sands etc. The private preserves put out updates on lions and leopards, likely to attract visitors. The Kruger itself is state run, but does have private concessions within it, such as the Jock Concession and Singita Lembobo. They have a series of their own roads which you aren't allowed to go on unless you are staying at the private lodge. These private concessions also give updates. But the rest of Kruger is state run and they get lots of visitors anyway due to how famous Kruger is. In terms of the northern parts of Kruger, there are less roads there, so its more difficult to get a picture on dynamics. It's also more forested than the southern and mid parts of Kruger, making it Elephant country.

A very helpful explanation of the situation in Kruger, @Selati , thank you.
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(09-11-2020, 01:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-10-2020, 02:30 PM)Selati Wrote:
(09-10-2020, 02:13 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: It's amazing, all the lion coalitions and prides I see on these maps here, yet we never see most of those lions in any of the formal video clips put out by the reserves or parks.... Just mostly about a handful of coalitions/prides.... 

Just saw a recent short clip for the first time of the Southern Avoca males affectionately with their cub.

The northern part of KNP is one vast area of no rangers or parks?  Are there many lions up there?  I see a couple of coalitions designated on the map, but that's it.  Do the lions up there roam down south far or vice versa?  Or do they mostly keep within a reasonable range from mid to northern sections of the park?
The Kruger operates very differently from the private reserves connected to it, ie Timbavati, Sabi Sands etc. The private preserves put out updates on lions and leopards, likely to attract visitors. The Kruger itself is state run, but does have private concessions within it, such as the Jock Concession and Singita Lembobo. They have a series of their own roads which you aren't allowed to go on unless you are staying at the private lodge. These private concessions also give updates. But the rest of Kruger is state run and they get lots of visitors anyway due to how famous Kruger is. In terms of the northern parts of Kruger, there are less roads there, so its more difficult to get a picture on dynamics. It's also more forested than the southern and mid parts of Kruger, making it Elephant country.

A very helpful explanation of the situation in Kruger, @Selati , thank you.
Thank you.
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(09-11-2020, 01:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-10-2020, 02:30 PM)Selati Wrote:
(09-10-2020, 02:13 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: It's amazing, all the lion coalitions and prides I see on these maps here, yet we never see most of those lions in any of the formal video clips put out by the reserves or parks.... Just mostly about a handful of coalitions/prides.... 

Just saw a recent short clip for the first time of the Southern Avoca males affectionately with their cub.

The northern part of KNP is one vast area of no rangers or parks?  Are there many lions up there?  I see a couple of coalitions designated on the map, but that's it.  Do the lions up there roam down south far or vice versa?  Or do they mostly keep within a reasonable range from mid to northern sections of the park?
The Kruger operates very differently from the private reserves connected to it, ie Timbavati, Sabi Sands etc. The private preserves put out updates on lions and leopards, likely to attract visitors. The Kruger itself is state run, but does have private concessions within it, such as the Jock Concession and Singita Lembobo. They have a series of their own roads which you aren't allowed to go on unless you are staying at the private lodge. These private concessions also give updates. But the rest of Kruger is state run and they get lots of visitors anyway due to how famous Kruger is. In terms of the northern parts of Kruger, there are less roads there, so its more difficult to get a picture on dynamics. It's also more forested than the southern and mid parts of Kruger, making it Elephant country.

A very helpful explanation of the situation in Kruger, @Selati , thank you.

Thank you for such an informative explanation @Selati. Just my two cents to add:

"Are there many lions up there?  I see a couple of coalitions designated on the map, but that's it.  Do the lions up there roam down south far or vice versa?  Or do they mostly keep within a reasonable range from mid to northern sections of the park?"

Northern Kruger is not only more remote but it is also relatively more arid than the central and southern sections so lion densities are lower. Theoretically, as there are no internal fences impeding natural dispersal of the wild animals, lions can roam from the northernmost point of Kruger all the way down to the southern tip and vice versa. However, since the lion population in Kruger is stable and viable and the ecosystem itself is abundant in natural resources , they don't have to roam that far for prey, territory, females (in the case of dispersing males),etc.
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(09-15-2020, 12:50 AM)Rabubi Wrote:
(09-11-2020, 01:12 AM)BA0701 Wrote:
(09-10-2020, 02:30 PM)Selati Wrote:
(09-10-2020, 02:13 PM)Cath2020 Wrote: It's amazing, all the lion coalitions and prides I see on these maps here, yet we never see most of those lions in any of the formal video clips put out by the reserves or parks.... Just mostly about a handful of coalitions/prides.... 

Just saw a recent short clip for the first time of the Southern Avoca males affectionately with their cub.

The northern part of KNP is one vast area of no rangers or parks?  Are there many lions up there?  I see a couple of coalitions designated on the map, but that's it.  Do the lions up there roam down south far or vice versa?  Or do they mostly keep within a reasonable range from mid to northern sections of the park?
The Kruger operates very differently from the private reserves connected to it, ie Timbavati, Sabi Sands etc. The private preserves put out updates on lions and leopards, likely to attract visitors. The Kruger itself is state run, but does have private concessions within it, such as the Jock Concession and Singita Lembobo. They have a series of their own roads which you aren't allowed to go on unless you are staying at the private lodge. These private concessions also give updates. But the rest of Kruger is state run and they get lots of visitors anyway due to how famous Kruger is. In terms of the northern parts of Kruger, there are less roads there, so its more difficult to get a picture on dynamics. It's also more forested than the southern and mid parts of Kruger, making it Elephant country.

A very helpful explanation of the situation in Kruger, @Selati , thank you.

Thank you for such an informative explanation @Selati. Just my to cents to add:

"Are there many lions up there?  I see a couple of coalitions designated on the map, but that's it.  Do the lions up there roam down south far or vice versa?  Or do they mostly keep within a reasonable range from mid to northern sections of the park?"

Northern Kruger is not only more remote but it is also relatively more arid than the central and southern sections so lion densities are lower. Theoretically, as there are no internal fences impeding natural dispersal of the wild animals, lions can roam from the northernmost point of Kruger all the way down to the southern tip and vice versa. However, since the lion population in Kruger is stable and viable and the ecosystem itself is abundant in natural resources , they don't have to roam that far for prey, territory, females (in the case of dispersing males),etc.

Thank you for that @Rabubi, yet even more very helpful information. This all leads to a much clearer understanding of the eco-system that is Kruger National Park, for those of us who, like myself, have not experienced it for themselves.
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The three Nharu/Tumbela males are still in the western sector of Sabi Sands in the vicinity of the Matimba male.
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