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Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - IñigoMontoya - 06-28-2017

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Hello I'm new in this forum (But I have been following it for a long time). I recognize be fan of Mapogo. 

Sorry for my english, it  is very poor.

I have a map of Sabi Sand image and I wonder if Someone can help me with the correct information to indicate in the map the actual coalitions males and prides territories.

When people talk on Mala Mala, Londolozi, Matimba coalitions etc etc. I get very confused because i don't know where they are exactly.

Many thanks

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - Tshokwane - 06-28-2017

Hi Iñigo.

So, the reserve is divided into different smaller ones that sometimes have different lodges within them. The map is useful because you can already see where each of them are.

Welcome to the forum, and I hope you like it.

(Cualquier duda, si se te hace difícil preguntarla en inglés, me podes enviar un msj privado y veo si te lo puedo contestar.)

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - leocrest - 06-28-2017

I can't see the image posted in original post, so I'll supply an alternative.

*This image is copyright of its original author


RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - leocrest - 06-28-2017

I'll make assumptions on territories below. I could be very wrong, please correct if so. 

Bboys:
Buffelshoek
Chitwa Chitwa
Djuma
Nkorho
Cheetah Plains
Arathusa
Very northern part of Mala Mala

Majis:
Everything west of Elephant plains and Londolozi

Elephant Plains serves as a buffer zone between bboys and majis.

Avoca & Matshapiri disputed area:
Londolozi
Western parts of Londolozi

Charleston Males:
Most of eastern Mala Mala and into KNP

Mantis:
Kirkmans
Southern Mala Mala
Large portion in KNP

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - LionKiss - 06-28-2017

Charlestons are in Sabi Sabi not East MalaMala

Avocas and Matshapiri are in East Londolozi and Malamala.


there are some mistakes in #4

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - IñigoMontoya - 06-29-2017

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Ok. More o less the map is so actually.....?

Red = Manjis
Blue =BBoys
Yellow = Avoca/Matshipiri disputed area
Orange = Charleston



Dawm, i dont know put images in the posts

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - Michael - 06-29-2017

(06-28-2017, 07:00 PM)leocrest Wrote: I'll make assumptions on territories below. I could be very wrong, please correct if so. 

Bboys:
Buffelshoek
Chitwa Chitwa
Djuma
Nkorho
Cheetah Plains
Arathusa
Very northern part of Mala Mala

Majis:
Everything west of Elephant plains and Londolozi

Elephant Plains serves as a buffer zone between bboys and majis.

Avoca & Matshapiri disputed area:
Londolozi
Western parts of Londolozi

Charleston Males:
Most of eastern Mala Mala and into KNP

Mantis:
Kirkmans
Southern Mala Mala
Large portion in KNP
The BB´s are also seen in Manyeleti and Simbambili quite regularly

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - Sideliner - 07-04-2017

Thanks for the effort Montoya - for us with short memories it certainly serves as a good reference point. Welcome to the forum. Perfect English is no requirement - only love for lions.

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - jacksonsmash - 07-18-2017


*This image is copyright of its original author

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - jacksonsmash - 07-18-2017

MY GUESS AT THE COALITIONS OF SABI SAND  AS OF 7/17/17
*This image is copyright of its original author

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - jacksonsmash - 07-18-2017

IM NOT GOING TO COUNTING THE TSALALAS OR YOUNG AVOCAS JUST YET     MAYBE IF THEYRE STILL AROUND IN A FEW MONTHS           WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CHARLESTONS   MANTIMAHLES AND BBOYS

AVOCAS MAY PUSH BBOYS SOUTH     CHARLESTONS  MAY CHASE OFF TSALALAS      WHO KNOWS?

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - Chris - 08-04-2017

(07-18-2017, 01:19 AM)jacksonsmash Wrote: IM NOT GOING TO COUNTING THE TSALALAS OR YOUNG AVOCAS JUST YET     MAYBE IF THEYRE STILL AROUND IN A FEW MONTHS           WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CHARLESTONS   MANTIMAHLES AND BBOYS

AVOCAS MAY PUSH BBOYS SOUTH     CHARLESTONS  MAY CHASE OFF TSALALAS      WHO KNOWS?

The avocas have taken over the nsevu pride they ousted the matshiphri males. And also, the avocas have no chance of making a legitimate fight or push to the Birminghams. The Birminghams are in there prime and are 2 times bigger and stronger than the avocas. And the avocas are really young and are barely entering their prime. And the tsalala males are getting bigger and stronger and there a coalition of 3 so they have a chance, plus the charleston male support spend more of their time in the kruger and the tsalala males can easily takeover the pride.

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - jacksonsmash - 08-05-2017

(08-04-2017, 07:09 PM)Chris Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 01:19 AM)jacksonsmash Wrote: IM NOT GOING TO COUNTING THE TSALALAS OR YOUNG AVOCAS JUST YET     MAYBE IF THEYRE STILL AROUND IN A FEW MONTHS           WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CHARLESTONS   MANTIMAHLES AND BBOYS

AVOCAS MAY PUSH BBOYS SOUTH     CHARLESTONS  MAY CHASE OFF TSALALAS      WHO KNOWS?

The avocas have taken over the nsevu pride they ousted the matshiphri males. And also, the avocas have no chance of making a legitimate fight or push to the Birminghams. The Birminghams are in there prime and are 2 times bigger and stronger than the avocas. And the avocas are really young and are barely entering their prime. And the tsalala males are getting bigger and stronger and there a coalition of 3 so they have a chance, plus the charleston male support spend more of their time in the kruger and the tsalala males can easily takeover the pride.

that was a mistake on my part  i meant bboys would push avocas             the avocas have not consolidated their power yet   my opinion is they will be gone in the next few months     i dont think the tsalala males will have an easy time taking the southern pride as long as the females have cubs that are of this age  they would give them a very hard time   i wouldnt be surprised if they hook up with the last 2 SPARTA females  or if they pushed out the avocas

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - Chris - 08-05-2017

(08-05-2017, 05:51 AM)jacksonsmash Wrote:
(08-04-2017, 07:09 PM)Chris Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 01:19 AM)jacksonsmash Wrote: IM NOT GOING TO COUNTING THE TSALALAS OR YOUNG AVOCAS JUST YET     MAYBE IF THEYRE STILL AROUND IN A FEW MONTHS           WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CHARLESTONS   MANTIMAHLES AND BBOYS

AVOCAS MAY PUSH BBOYS SOUTH     CHARLESTONS  MAY CHASE OFF TSALALAS      WHO KNOWS?

The avocas have taken over the nsevu pride they ousted the matshiphri males. And also, the avocas have no chance of making a legitimate fight or push to the Birminghams. The Birminghams are in there prime and are 2 times bigger and stronger than the avocas. And the avocas are really young and are barely entering their prime. And the tsalala males are getting bigger and stronger and there a coalition of 3 so they have a chance, plus the charleston male support spend more of their time in the kruger and the tsalala males can easily takeover the pride.

that was a mistake on my part  i meant bboys would push avocas             the avocas have not consolidated their power yet   my opinion is they will be gone in the next few months     i dont think the tsalala males will have an easy time taking the southern pride as long as the females have cubs that are of this age  they would give them a very hard time   i wouldnt be surprised if they hook up with the last 2 SPARTA females  or if they pushed out the avocas
The avocas have already consolidated their power already they pushed out the matshiphri males and they are mating with the nsevu pride. And it will be easy for the tsalala males to take over the southern pride their pride males no were near and they have small cubs that it will be easy for the males to kill. It would have been harder for the males of the cubs were older but they would still be pushed out and just to keep in mind the tsalala male are older and stronger than the little soon to be sub adults.

RE: Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides - jacksonsmash - 08-13-2017

(08-05-2017, 11:28 PM)Chris Wrote:
(08-05-2017, 05:51 AM)jacksonsmash Wrote:
(08-04-2017, 07:09 PM)Chris Wrote:
(07-18-2017, 01:19 AM)jacksonsmash Wrote: IM NOT GOING TO COUNTING THE TSALALAS OR YOUNG AVOCAS JUST YET     MAYBE IF THEYRE STILL AROUND IN A FEW MONTHS           WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CHARLESTONS   MANTIMAHLES AND BBOYS

AVOCAS MAY PUSH BBOYS SOUTH     CHARLESTONS  MAY CHASE OFF TSALALAS      WHO KNOWS?

The avocas have taken over the nsevu pride they ousted the matshiphri males. And also, the avocas have no chance of making a legitimate fight or push to the Birminghams. The Birminghams are in there prime and are 2 times bigger and stronger than the avocas. And the avocas are really young and are barely entering their prime. And the tsalala males are getting bigger and stronger and there a coalition of 3 so they have a chance, plus the charleston male support spend more of their time in the kruger and the tsalala males can easily takeover the pride.

that was a mistake on my part  i meant bboys would push avocas             the avocas have not consolidated their power yet   my opinion is they will be gone in the next few months     i dont think the tsalala males will have an easy time taking the southern pride as long as the females have cubs that are of this age  they would give them a very hard time   i wouldnt be surprised if they hook up with the last 2 SPARTA females  or if they pushed out the avocas
The avocas have already consolidated their power already they pushed out the matshiphri males and they are mating with the nsevu pride. And it will be easy for the tsalala males to take over the southern pride their pride males no were near and they have small cubs that it will be easy for the males to kill. It would have been harder for the males of the cubs were older but they would still be pushed out and just to keep in mind the tsalala male are older and stronger than the little soon to be sub adults.

THE NTSEVUS ARE MATING WITH 3 COALITIONS/ DIFFERENT COALITIONS ARE PENETRATING ALL OVER THE NORTH OF MALA MALA/THESE THINGS DIDNT HAPPEN UNDER MATSHIPIRIS/THE SURVIVING MATSHIPIRI IS STILL AROUND WITH THE FEMALES......
I WOULD SAY THEY STILL HAVE SOME CONSOLIDATING TO DO..... AND IT WILL NOT BE EASY FOR THE TSALALAS TO TAKE THE SOUTHERN PRIDE....