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Maps of Sabi Sand Coalitions Males and Prides

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(04-16-2022, 06:44 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Here is new updated map of Sabi Sands since September of last year :


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A lot have changed in this half a year , prob most turbulent period of SS in the past few years. 

We witnessed biggest shift in males dynamics since 2018 with Nws males overthroning and taking BBoys territory and pride in late 2021, era of 6 yrs dominance of BBoys came to an end. Tinyo disappeared around that time, it is not know if it was related to Nws or not, last standing birmingham, Nhenha, went nomadic.

Up in the north things also changed , few adult females breakaway from Nkuhuma and Talamati prides and went on next chapter with new males , 2 Nkuhumas went west in Singita with 2 new dominant males in this area , Plains Camp boys, while 3 Talamatis went north with Imbali/s8 male. DM Avoca as lone male lost grip on his territory and pride in meantime , he prob didnt get accepted back to his brothers, so he went nomadic and now roams Sabi Sands alone.

In this period we lost few lions like Bboy Tinyo, Scar Tumbela, Smudge Nosed Kruger male (not confirmed but not seen since September), Tsalala female, Ximhungwe subadult female and few more subadults and cubs.
Great update as always.   Thanks for doing these maps…they extremely helpful.   

Where’s  the 6th Mhangeni?
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(04-16-2022, 06:44 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Here is new updated map of Sabi Sands since September of last year :


*This image is copyright of its original author


A lot have changed in this half a year , prob most turbulent period of SS in the past few years. 

We witnessed biggest shift in males dynamics since 2018 with Nws males overthroning and taking BBoys territory and pride in late 2021, era of 6 yrs dominance of BBoys came to an end. Tinyo disappeared around that time, it is not know if it was related to Nws or not, last standing birmingham, Nhenha, went nomadic.

Up in the north things also changed , few adult females breakaway from Nkuhuma and Talamati prides and went on next chapter with new males , 2 Nkuhumas went west in Singita with 2 new dominant males in this area , Plains Camp boys, while 3 Talamatis went north with Imbali/s8 male. DM Avoca as lone male lost grip on his territory and pride in meantime , he prob didnt get accepted back to his brothers, so he went nomadic and now roams Sabi Sands alone.

In this period we lost few lions like Bboy Tinyo, Scar Tumbela, Smudge Nosed Kruger male (not confirmed but not seen since September), Tsalala female, Ximhungwe subadult female and few more subadults and cubs.
Fantastic post you made a longtime lurker signup finally so thanks. A few questions is there a chance Darkmane could link up with the 3 ny males or even his southern brothers?. Also dint he have some young males with him awhileback when imbali male chased him? What happen'd to them please. Any news on torchwood male please aswell. So happy nkuhuma male is with a old warrior for abit. Thank you my friend.
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(04-17-2022, 03:31 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: Great update as always.   Thanks for doing these maps…they extremely helpful.   

Where’s  the 6th Mhangeni?

Ty, all 6 Mhangenis are on the map.
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(04-17-2022, 05:15 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(04-17-2022, 03:31 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: Great update as always.   Thanks for doing these maps…they extremely helpful.   

Where’s  the 6th Mhangeni?

Ty, all 6 Mhangenis are on the map.

I keep telling myself to call the eye doctor lol.   Great example of how much I need reading glasses.  Lol.
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@Tr1x24 Do you think map might need updating a bit by now? 

The Gijima males have taken some part of the Sabi Sands and Southern Pride female, etc
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(08-02-2022, 01:45 PM)lionuk Wrote: @Tr1x24 Do you think map might need updating a bit by now? 

The Gijima males have taken some part of the Sabi Sands and Southern Pride female, etc

Yea, will do soon.
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( This post was last modified: 08-03-2022, 07:49 PM by lionuk )

Latest information on the prides for upcoming map:

Talamati Breakaway

Imbali male
3 adult females
-1 Matimba daughter
-2 Selati daughters
-8 cubs


Talamati pride

1/3 Northern Avocas Dark Mane
-2 females sired by Blondie and Dozie
-6 sub adults/ adults 2M 4F


Nkuhuma pride

2/3 Northern Avocas Blondie and Mohawk
4 adult females
-1 Matimbas daughter
-3 Birmingham daughters
-7 cubs
-7 subadults 5M 2F


Nkuhuma Breakaway

2 Plains Camp males
-2 adult females
-2 Matimba daughters
-2 cubs 1M 1F

Torchwood pride

Torchwood/Kruger male
14 females
-1 unknown
-4 Matimba daughters
-9 Birmingham daughters
- Unknown number of cubs at present


Othawa pride

1 Tumbela male Skorro jr
3 Females
-2 Mapogo daughters
-1 Majingilane daughter
-5 cubs 1M 4F 

Ximhungwe + Othawa Breakaway pride

Nhenda and Nkuhuma male
2 females
-1 Ximhungwe, Selati Daughter
-1 Othawa Breakaway, Matimba Daughter
- No cubs 

Mhangeni pride

No Dominant Male
5 Females
-2 Mapogo daughters
-2 Majingilane daughters
-1 Birmingham daughter
- 1 cub 1 F, sired by Othawa Male

(1 missing female Mapogo daughter)


Kambula Pride

4 N’waswitshakas Amahle, Gore, Uboso, Eorenji
9 Females
-5 Majingilane daughters
-4 Birmingham daughters
-New born cubs, idk number of new cubs


Kambula Breakaway Group

1 Female
-Majingilane daughter
-2 cubs 2 F


Kambula Subadults Group 1

4 Males K3 K4 K5 K 6
2 Females

Kambula Group 2
2 Males K1 K2 / in Kruger together

Tsalala pride

1 Female
Sired by Birmingham (Nhenda)

Styx pride

4 N’waswitshakas Amahle Gore Uboso Eorenji
3 Females
-1 Rollercoaster Daughter
-1 Majingaline Daughter
-1 Birmingham Daughter
-11 cubs 6F 5M sired by N’waswitshakas

Southern Pride

1 Female
-Fourways daughter
-2 Females subadults, sired by N’waswitshakas

S1/ Gijima Males in southern female territory and mating with her

Sand River pride

2 Southern Avocas
4 Females
-2 Toulon daughters
-2 Mantimahle daughters
-4 subadults 1F 3M sired by Southern Avocas
-7 cubs sired by Southern Avocas
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(08-03-2022, 12:37 PM)lionuk Wrote: Kambula Pride

4 N’waswitshakas Amahle, Gore, Uboso, Eorenji
9 Females
-5 Majingilane daughters
-4 Birmingham daughters
-New born cubs, idk number of new cubs
Acording to Mala Mala the should be 7 females sired bz Birminghams in total, that is with breakaway groups.

(08-03-2022, 12:37 PM)lionuk Wrote: Sand River pride

2 Southern Avocas
4 Females
-2 Toulon daughters
-2 Mantimahle daughters
-4 subadults 1F 3M sired by Southern Avocas
-11 cubs sired by Southern Avocas
There is 6 cubs - 2 litters of younger Sand River famales while 4 subadults are of 2 litters of older females.
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(08-03-2022, 04:40 PM)Potato Wrote: There is 6 cubs - 2 litters of younger Sand River famales while 4 subadults are of 2 litters of older females.
Just made a correction and the pride has 6 cubs plus a big lonely female, total of 7 cubs sired by the S. Avocas.
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(08-03-2022, 07:51 PM)lionuk Wrote:
(08-03-2022, 04:40 PM)Potato Wrote: There is 6 cubs - 2 litters of younger Sand River famales while 4 subadults are of 2 litters of older females.
Just made a correction and the pride has 6 cubs plus a big lonely female, total of 7 cubs sired by the S. Avocas.

Any info on Plains Camp pride, also under S. Avoca control?
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Updated map :


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As we can see, a lot has changed since last map :

- Limper Tumbela died from disease, last Tumbela hold on territory for few months more, but eventually lost it to Nhenha/NK. 
- As a result, 2 old Othawa females got killed in a takeover. 
- NK/Nhenha didn't hold territory for long, as recently they got ousted by PC males. 
- As aftermath, Othawa pride are down to Sassy and 3 subs for now. 
- few months ago, 1 of old Mhangeni females disappeared, presumed dead by now. 
- another old Mhangeni females was away from the pride and mating with PC males, she didn't return to the pride, yet joined young Tsalala female. 
- Purple Eyes NK female passed away few months ago, as she was in poor condition for quite some time. 
- Talamati breakaway had lost some cubs, now are on 5. 
- Kambula childcare group are down to 2 cubs. 
- females from Kambula main group gave birth to Ndhzenga offspring, but lost all the cubs. 
- 2 young Kambula females are uncounted for, they still might be around, moving between the groups. 
- Old RC Styx female recently disappeared, presumed dead. 
- 2 young males, who where in a clash with Ndhzengas in March, where they lost 1 member to unknown reasons, establish themselves in vacant Ndhzengas territory in the south, they where named Gijima males, they hang with Southern Pride.
- and as always, Torchwood pride members and count might not be up to date because lack of info, same for Fourways.
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Nice update! Amazing how much has changed since the last update.
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(09-25-2022, 03:23 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Updated map :


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As we can see, a lot has changed since last map :

- Limper Tumbela died from disease, last Tumbela hold on territory for few months more, but eventually lost it to Nhenha/NK. 
- As a result, 2 old Othawa females got killed in a takeover. 
- NK/Nhenha didn't hold territory for long, as recently they got ousted by PC males. 
- As aftermath, Othawa pride are down to Sassy and 3 subs for now. 
- few months ago, 1 of old Mhangeni females disappeared, presumed dead by now. 
- another old Mhangeni females was away from the pride and mating with PC males, she didn't return to the pride, yet joined young Tsalala female. 
- Purple Eyes NK female passed away few months ago, as she was in poor condition for quite some time. 
- Talamati breakaway had lost some cubs, now are on 5. 
- Kambula childcare group are down to 2 cubs. 
- females from Kambula main group gave birth to Ndhzenga offspring, but lost all the cubs. 
- 2 young Kambula females are uncounted for, they still might be around, moving between the groups. 
- Old RC Styx female recently disappeared, presumed dead. 
- 2 young males, who where in a clash with Ndhzengas in March, where they lost 1 member to unknown reasons, establish themselves in vacant Ndhzengas territory in the south, they where named Gijima males, they hang with Southern Pride.
- and as always, Torchwood pride members and count might not be up to date because lack of info, same for Fourways.

Thanks for your hard work.   I always look forward to these updates
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(09-25-2022, 03:23 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Updated map :


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As we can see, a lot has changed since last map :

- Limper Tumbela died from disease, last Tumbela hold on territory for few months more, but eventually lost it to Nhenha/NK. 
- As a result, 2 old Othawa females got killed in a takeover. 
- NK/Nhenha didn't hold territory for long, as recently they got ousted by PC males. 
- As aftermath, Othawa pride are down to Sassy and 3 subs for now. 
- few months ago, 1 of old Mhangeni females disappeared, presumed dead by now. 
- another old Mhangeni females was away from the pride and mating with PC males, she didn't return to the pride, yet joined young Tsalala female. 
- Purple Eyes NK female passed away few months ago, as she was in poor condition for quite some time. 
- Talamati breakaway had lost some cubs, now are on 5. 
- Kambula childcare group are down to 2 cubs. 
- females from Kambula main group gave birth to Ndhzenga offspring, but lost all the cubs. 
- 2 young Kambula females are uncounted for, they still might be around, moving between the groups. 
- Old RC Styx female recently disappeared, presumed dead. 
- 2 young males, who where in a clash with Ndhzengas in March, where they lost 1 member to unknown reasons, establish themselves in vacant Ndhzengas territory in the south, they where named Gijima males, they hang with Southern Pride.
- and as always, Torchwood pride members and count might not be up to date because lack of info, same for Fourways.

I think there are only 4 Talamati Young Females left.
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(09-25-2022, 03:23 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Updated map :


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As we can see, a lot has changed since last map :

- Limper Tumbela died from disease, last Tumbela hold on territory for few months more, but eventually lost it to Nhenha/NK. 
- As a result, 2 old Othawa females got killed in a takeover. 
- NK/Nhenha didn't hold territory for long, as recently they got ousted by PC males. 
- As aftermath, Othawa pride are down to Sassy and 3 subs for now. 
- few months ago, 1 of old Mhangeni females disappeared, presumed dead by now. 
- another old Mhangeni females was away from the pride and mating with PC males, she didn't return to the pride, yet joined young Tsalala female. 
- Purple Eyes NK female passed away few months ago, as she was in poor condition for quite some time. 
- Talamati breakaway had lost some cubs, now are on 5. 
- Kambula childcare group are down to 2 cubs. 
- females from Kambula main group gave birth to Ndhzenga offspring, but lost all the cubs. 
- 2 young Kambula females are uncounted for, they still might be around, moving between the groups. 
- Old RC Styx female recently disappeared, presumed dead. 
- 2 young males, who where in a clash with Ndhzengas in March, where they lost 1 member to unknown reasons, establish themselves in vacant Ndhzengas territory in the south, they where named Gijima males, they hang with Southern Pride.
- and as always, Torchwood pride members and count might not be up to date because lack of info, same for Fourways.

Your maps are always so tremendously helpful and informative, thank you very much for doing them!!
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