Majingilane Coalition Male Lineage

[Mohawk4]

I believe that the post from the user LIONS OF SABI SANDS & KRUGER NATIONAL PARK give some answers to your questions + they are trapped in an area that dont have prides with many females and they have Mantimalhe coalition near them:



"Tsalalas went through hell growing up. It's surprising that they are still around. Bullied by Hyenas, Gored by buffaloes, beaten by many coalitions before the age of 3. They were always skinny because of lack of food. They still survived and proved they are toughest Majingilane genes around. I love all Lions and don't pick sides. What they have gone through makes me wonder what if they were well fed and protected. Now they are big, strong and experienced. All they need is confidence and you'll see them conquer. They don't have big manes because of stress. Avocas went through the same procedure when it comes to growing manes. You go back and watch their videos from mid 2018. Once they established significant territory, they quickly grew their manes." Reply

[Mohawk4]

Young Othawa male aka Nguvu

Singita Sabi Sand - posted 11 Jan 2019

credits: Joffers Photography

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photo by Chene Wales-Baillie

Singita Sabi Sand, posted 10 Jan 2019

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Othawa male & Mhangeni pride 
December 2018 report - Singita Sabi Sand

The Mhangeni pride continues to grow with ‘pride’ with the seven young cubs being a highlight of the group’s dynamic. On a few occasions this month, one of the older litters of four cubs was missing a single cub for longer than a week and on these occasions, we had been under the presumption that the single cub may have been killed. However, fortunately this was not the case and it has since been seen.
Unfortunately, the mortality on cubs is high at young ages, particularly as there are dominant males moving amongst the pride at present. The only large male moving amongst the pride’s females is the Othawa male who has shown no threat to the cubs, however he dominates over the lionesses during feeding opportunities due to his brute strength and instinct to survive. This is an interesting saga that continues to amazes us in every encounter that we have with this pride.

https://wildlife.singita.com/monthly-snapshots/singita-sabi-sand?fbclid=IwAR21q2HCGuo1PbEYj6aVdFCIOZvEK5FjfPAqTFtwi7LTpnsvDOKAxOC4dHs

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Image credit: Singita guide @chenewbaillie (IG Stories)

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[Mohawk4]

Beautiful Styx male lions!I  hope they are alive

Biggermane & Three Tooth Tsalala/Marthly
KNP,posted 01/27/2019.
Photo credit to D.Peretti Rivas

BiggerMane is tall.....

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Three Tooth scent marking territory.

Posted 01/31/2019.,KNP
Photo credit to Nagy Zoé Anna

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[jordi6927]

(01-07-2019, 11:11 PM)Matimbalani Wrote:

(01-07-2019, 09:21 PM)jordi6927 Wrote:

(01-07-2019, 07:40 PM)Matimbalani Wrote:

(01-06-2019, 11:08 PM)jordi6927 Wrote: Can anyone guess as to why the Tsalala males still havent taken over a pride yet?

I don't think they got the chance to dominate a pride and in any event they were too young and in-experienced to hold on to one. In their most recent altercation they were chased out by the two Avocas in the south. That was six months ago and I think now they can mount a serious challenge. They still don't stand a chance against B-Boys or even the Charleston's but may be they can challenge an older or smaller coalition. I do hope that for the sake of genetic diversity they stay out of SS.

I honestly didnt even take into account genetic diversity ... but I guess it might be best for them to move out a little ... they seem to be successful hunters / scavengers so I dont think they will have a problem finding food and gaining more size to push around ... I think they get stressed out with all the traveling they do ... hopefully they will settle down in a place with a pride or two where we can occasionally get some photos of them.

Given the geography of this particular section (or of any cul-de-sac) there is a strong possibility of a genetic bottle neck or sub-prime situations developing. Right now we have very old males in Matimbas and before that the Majings in the West who have a hard time hunting and end up taking resources away from cubs and the pride. I saw some reports of the older Othawa cubs dying from starvation. On the other hand, we have a very young and immature male in Othawa who won't be able to protect the cubs should any threat materialize. I am not sure how common this is/was but this looks untenable in the long run. It would probably be better if a new and unrelated coalition made it's way to the West though geography makes that hard.

The older othawa cubs died because they were lost for 5 weeks ... not because there was a lack of resources. There is also no possibility of a genetic bottle neck because lions come and lions go. At some point there will be a strong group of males to come in and take over this area ensuring that new blood is introduced. I think this area and the Othawa's will be fine Reply

[jordi6927]

The Tsalala's scent marking is a good thing .......... its finally happening that they are claiming an area ........ hopefully there is a pride close for them! Reply

[sundarbans]

Are the 3 older Othawa cubs dead? How did that happen? Reply

[jordi6927]

(02-05-2019, 01:26 AM)sundarbans Wrote: Are the 3 older Othawa cubs dead? How did that happen?

2 of the 3 died ... they were separated for 5 weeks and starved to death .... the 3rd boy is doing good and so are the 3 younger cubs Reply

[swtlei4u]

(02-06-2019, 04:39 PM)jordi6927 Wrote:

(02-05-2019, 01:26 AM)sundarbans Wrote: Are the 3 older Othawa cubs dead? How did that happen?

2 of the 3 died ... they were separated for 5 weeks and starved to death .... the 3rd boy is doing good and so are the 3 younger cubs

was the 3 cubs that used play with young othawa male? that suck! Reply

[Mohawk4]

Biggermane & Three Tooth Tsalala/Marthly males
Posted 02/17/2019.(probably not recent photo).
Photo credit to C.Weber

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Othawa Prince

Credits: Richard De Gouveia @rangerrichphoto

Singita Sabi Sand, posted 11 Feb 2019

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Credits: Richard De Gouveia, posted 14 Feb 2019 (sighting from a few days ago)

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Othawa male

Singita, January 2019


photo by Leon

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Othawa male Nguvu walks like an army tank

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[stronghold]

Hello Everyone, What happened to the forum. Seems everyone is so busy or quit the forum. It seems like Biggermane and Dominant Male of the Tsalala Males have passed due to an unfortunate incident. I am hoping it's not true. Reply

[Matimbalani]

(03-01-2019, 10:34 AM)stronghold Wrote: Hello Everyone, What happened to the forum. Seems everyone is so busy or quit the forum. It seems like Biggermane and Dominant Male of the Tsalala Males have passed due to an unfortunate incident. I am hoping it's not true.

@stronghold Not sure, the forums have been quite for awhile. Where did you read that one of the Tsalala males is gone? Reply

[stronghold]

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[stronghold]

They were on that Area and no sightings of them 3 for quite some time now only 3 tooth. I am still hoping its not them Reply

[Matimbalani]

(03-02-2019, 03:30 PM)stronghold Wrote: They were on that Area and no sightings of them 3 for quite some time now only 3 tooth. I am still hoping its not them

@stronghold Well, that doesn't sound good. Tsalala pride and their progeny haven't had a good run of late. But if one survives and can find another coalition partner, perhaps their legacy will be more secure. Reply

[Mohawk4]

I hope that Tsalala Boys are fine.....

Othawa Male Lion Nguvu Mini Documentary

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