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Lions of Timbavati
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A few more shots of the River pride male after the confrontation with the three Birmingham males.
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 (08-10-2023, 09:42 PM)Timbavati Wrote: World lion day! Not sure how superficial those wounds are, just lucky they aren't fatal, we'll have to see if the eye is damaged when the swelling goes down. It appears that someone bit him good, right around his eye. I did not see those wounds when he was hanging near the injured RP male. I wonder if the Birminghams bumped into the remaining RP males, or possibly someone else.  (08-11-2023, 09:33 AM)BA0701 Wrote:maybe they went back to the wounded male to finish the job and ended up with those scars(08-10-2023, 09:42 PM)Timbavati Wrote: World lion day!  (08-10-2023, 09:42 PM)Timbavati Wrote: World lion day! How did that happen?? (08-11-2023, 09:53 AM)Gavskrr Wrote:(08-11-2023, 09:33 AM)BA0701 Wrote:maybe they went back to the wounded male to finish the job and ended up with those scars(08-10-2023, 09:42 PM)Timbavati Wrote: World lion day! Certainly a possibility. Hopefully we'll get some clarity on what happened to him, and why one of his tawny bros is so far away. 
Speaking of the dead River Pride Male, here a throwback to his coalition's fight with the 2 Mbiri males ( dunno if he is the one in the video ), I don't think this different angle of the post-fight ( different video from the one shared here before ) and photos were share here on WF.
All credits to Kelly Co: Last year on April 14 th 2019, I was lucky to see the fight between the river pride and Mbiri brothers. This is my video of the fight. We were watching 3 of the riverpride lions near NThambo treecamp, when another camp called in saying the Mbiri Brothers were running towards us on the tar road. Our jeep drove towards the Mbiri brothers, followed them back and we saw them fighting! The movie I made is only the last minute, I was so “ shocked “ from seeing this, nobody filmed the beginning of the fight. Before the fight:  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Mbiris:  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author After the fight the split up, we found them back later. They were reunited and wounded.  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author Same day on the evening drive they lay on the same spot but with a full tummy. We could hear lions making a lot of noise for several hours in the night. ( this was my second game drive ever and the first time I saw lions in the wild!)  *This image is copyright of its original author Video from a different angle than the one shared here before:
I was very impressed by Scar's height in this video, sure the River Pride Male was very young and had a lot of bulking up to do, but speaking only about height, lions are around their peak when they turn 4, still Scar was towering over him:
 *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author It's not rare to see lions that aren't that much taller even when compared to lionesses.  (08-11-2023, 10:26 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I was very impressed by Scar's height in this video, sure the River Pride Male was very young and had a lot of bulking up to do, but speaking only about height, lions are around their peak when they turn 4, still Scar was towering over him: Yes Zigzag Mbiri is a monster and shaka is even taller  (08-11-2023, 10:26 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I was very impressed by Scar's height in this video, sure the River Pride Male was very young and had a lot of bulking up to do, but speaking only about height, lions are around their peak when they turn 4, still Scar was towering over him: Lions grow up to around 6 yrs of age, although their growing slows down with age, and this is proven fact. Yea Mbiris are big, but this RP boys here are prob not even 4 yrs old yet. (08-11-2023, 10:22 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Speaking of the dead River Pride Male, here a throwback to his coalition's fight with the 2 Mbiri males ( dunno if he is the one in the video ), I don't think this different angle of the post-fight ( different video from the one shared here before ) and photos were share here on WF.Great post, I remember this like if it was yesterday, time flies
@Tr1x24
I was only speaking about height. Lions hardly, if at all grow any taller after this age, studies shows it.  *This image is copyright of its original author 3,5yo lion like Jr Nkuhuma was already as tall as Ginger, the current Nkuhumas of the same age taller than Mohawk. It's normal, it doesn't mean they'll grow in height much more, or even at all. They do, however, gain considerable more muscle mass/weight from 4 to 5, and a little bit more after that as studies also show.  *This image is copyright of its original author So while the average lion will be around 170kg at 4, 185kg at 5 and 190kg at his peak, his height will hardly be any different. Maybe the River Pride male would grow taller a little bit more, but hardly to any significant degree and was certainly much taller than the average lioness, still ZZ towered over him like many lions don't come close of doing to lionesses. I think Mbiris might be taller than their fathers, though probably not as bulky.
@Mapokser not all individuals grow the same, some grow and develop sooner, some Iater.
I said they grow more slowly as they get older, yes, on average, most of "frame" growing is done to ~4 yrs, while mass they gain up to 6 yrs, when they start to enter absolute prime years. But i dont like this comparisons of prime males vs 3.5/4 yrs old, ok, they might not gain much in height anymore, but will get much more mass and mane, which brings alot for males to look overall bigger. If we could see current RP males and Mbiris together, size difference would not nearly look that big.  (08-12-2023, 04:08 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: @Mapokser not all individuals grow the same, some grow and develop sooner, some Iater. I agree but the data you shared is averaged out so you will have some outliers. It wouldn't be that uncommon for some individuals to hit a grow spurt around 4 years old and suddenly gain a few inches in height overnight
The three River pride males (now down to only two) in their prime. They've grown a lot and turned into massive beasts
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