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06-22-2024, 02:35 AM( This post was last modified: 06-22-2024, 02:36 AM by Gavskrr )
(06-21-2024, 09:19 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Did the vuyelas chase the last skorro male away?
At the time it was said that the Skorro males were being pressured by males coming from the Kruger and Vuyelas, after Rhasa was killed by the Vuyela males the remaining male left towards Klaserie leaving the area empty for Vuyelas/Birmingham Breakaways
I think it's a dangerous game for Vuyelas males, we don't know the current composition of Birmingham breakaway males, but Vuyelas may end up facing a numerical disadvantage during this mating period.
(06-21-2024, 09:19 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Did the vuyelas chase the last skorro male away?
At the time it was said that the Skorro males were being pressured by males coming from the Kruger and Vuyelas, after Rhasa was killed by the Vuyela males the remaining male left towards Klaserie leaving the area empty for Vuyelas/Birmingham Breakaways
I don’t think they really ousted them then from what actually happened right?
(06-22-2024, 07:09 PM)Mapokser Wrote: If the other 3 are split or dead idk.
Personally I do not believe they did split and with how rare they were seen in the last couple of months they could easly be together as a coalition but just on those rae sightings happen to be seen just part of the coalition.
(06-22-2024, 07:31 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: They already showed glimpses od spliting in half between older and younger ones thru 2023.
Temporary splits within coalitions are normal. Even through out nomadic stage male do not spent all their time together.
(06-24-2024, 09:18 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Looks like BBreakaway males didnt abandon that area afterall.
Also, appears to me, that they didn't take over the pride yet, as well, Else why would they chase them off like that, and if they were pride males why would those females run away like that?
06-24-2024, 10:38 PM( This post was last modified: 06-24-2024, 10:39 PM by Tr1x24 )
(06-24-2024, 09:44 PM)BA0701 Wrote: Also, appears to me, that they didn't take over the pride yet, as well, Else why would they chase them off like that, and if they were pride males why would those females run away like that?
Yea, they where prob seen with few members, mating etc., but still didnt establish themselves as full pride males.
Did someone recognize 3 males?
Black maned is Kovu i think.
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(06-22-2024, 07:09 PM)Mapokser Wrote: If the other 3 are split or dead idk.
Personally I do not believe they did split and with how rare they were seen in the last couple of months they could easly be together as a coalition but just on those rae sightings happen to be seen just part of the coalition.
(06-22-2024, 07:31 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: They already showed glimpses od spliting in half between older and younger ones thru 2023.
Temporary splits within coalitions are normal. Even through out nomadic stage male do not spent all their time together.
4 of them together now reported on Shindzela.
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It wasn’t just at the waterholes that there was action though! Our drives delivered some great sightings throughout the week. Our lions were strangely quiet this week, at least the large prides, and specifically the River Pride. We saw almost no sign of them for the entire week, but late in the week it was discovered that they had been on a buffalo kill some distance north of our concession. The Vuyela males remained quiet for most the week, at least from a roaring-point-of-view. Their lack of roars however belies the other activies they got up to over the past two weeks. There were reports of three Vuyela males way in the south of the reserve last weekend, but when they pitched up on our western traversing area, it was seen that it was not the Vuyelas, but the Birmingham Breakaway males. Why were they so far south west of the Mayambula Pride? That answer came the next day when we found a single Mayambula female mating with a Vuyela male in the heart of their territory. It appears, at least on the surface, that the Vuyelas have taken over the Mayambua Pride! This spells disaster for the new cubs, but could have some very positive long-term consequences, with the likely scenario being that the Mayambula pride start pushing deeper into our concession. Time will tell how this plays out, but for now, it seems as though the Vuyela reign is growing.
06-26-2024, 10:40 AM( This post was last modified: 06-26-2024, 10:50 AM by Tr1x24 )
5 BBreakaways together at Shindzela :
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So looks like majority of them (or all if 6th is near/around) are still together.
Looks like they didnt succeed at trying to establish themselves as full territorial and pride males of Mayambulas, as Vuyelas are now making moves in that direction.
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