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Lions of Timbavati

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(08-13-2021, 12:57 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: I dont think any of Mapogos or Majingilanes where some above avarage lions in size. 
I agree that most of the Mapogos or Majingilanes were average sized lions. Except Mak, Dreadlocks, and PB, these three were big lions but not the biggest around like the Matimbas were for example.
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That recent pic of the mbiri male stood behind the car was one of the only times i actual said.. WOW! Kind of get a idea, as you can scale him up to the vehicle. There was that other photo of one of the mjejane boys walking behind a vehicle from a few month ago, that was another WOW moment... for me any way
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The Black Dam male lion on a stroll across the road in the Timbavati.
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WOW! ha
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This is what  Tom told about the BDM size. With the recent lion census done he was reckoned to be one of the biggest and heaviest lions ever to have been done in the Timbavati...

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The legend Mapoza, who rules and has controlled over most of Thornybush for a long duration. Originally he was dominant with his brother, but he lost his brother a long time ago, but did not let this be the end, he continued his progress in power and possession until he made the sons of the Avoca pride he was ruling his partners, he adopted them, but he was not their original father, the two Xikukutsu males who were born into the Avoca pride and were sired by the Ross males. But now Mapoza and Xikukutsu males are the dominant males of Black Dam Pride after the death the Giraffe male and the Monwana pride which now has new cubs. Making Mapoza now have offspring in 3 prides! These beautiful pictures of him was taken by Megan recently in August of this year!

Thornybush, South Africa.
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A true beast of male lion - One of the two Zark males at Steve's pan in @jejane_private_nature_reserve these two healthy males have been spending a lot of time in the Southern parts of the Balule area. Although they used to be dominant over 5.000 HA in @ximuwupictures they haven't been seen in Klaserie in a long time. Therefore, Only time will tell if they'll stick in Balule, Without a doubt a force to be reckoned with.

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The 'limping' Monwana male dragging his meal to a more protected spot, away from approaching hyena and vultures. He has adapted very well, considering his old injuries to his back leg.

Video credit: Brett Craig (Video taken this week)
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(08-13-2021, 04:43 PM)Timbavati Wrote:
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The 'limping' Monwana male dragging his meal to a more protected spot, away from approaching hyena and vultures. He has adapted very well, considering his old injuries to his back leg.

Video credit: Brett Craig (Video taken this week)
Nice to see update on Monwana male. I was already worried of him. Nice to see tho he is alright and holding in the territory of Sumatra and Hercules males.
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(08-13-2021, 12:57 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: A lot of these rangers words are just speculation and impression, not 100% fact, until you see lions side by side, because difference in size is minimal in most cases. 
So the opinions of rangers and guides which seen those lions multiple times on life are just speculations, but those:

(08-13-2021, 12:57 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Skull of ~ 4.5 year old 5th Majingilane is bigger then prime KT Mapogo. 
(08-13-2021, 12:57 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Pawn size is barely a factor, Tinyo prob has biggest pawns around, and he is not a big lion..
(08-13-2021, 12:57 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: I dont think any of Mapogos or Majingilanes where some above avarage lions in size. 
(08-13-2021, 12:57 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: I also dont think Kruger males where above average or big males, Freddy and Limper where similar in size, and when Freddy partnered Solo, Solo was bigger lion then him (althrough Freddy was old then)
lol. You compare Mapogos to Majingilanes on the base of single photo of skulls of KT and 5th Majingi. It does not make any sense even not considering considering that KT's skull was missing big part of it which makes such comparison even more absurd. Saying that Tinyo probably has biggest paws around is even more absurd as this is impossible to judge and make comparisons through internet. On what you also base statement that Solo was bigger than Freddy? Moreover even if he would be indeed bigger how does it prove that Fredy wasn't big lion as Solo was himself said by guides to be big individual. Also Solo and Fredy were more or less same age. Absurd statement based on nothink running after absurd  statement based on nothink  in your comment there.
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Klaserie Drift update

As with June, the River Pride has continued to push boundaries during July, although they did make a reappearance in their trusty homeland around Misava Safari Camp. We are pleased to see the pride has consistently been together over much of the month. That being said, at one stage the males - Hosi and Socha - were spotted expelling the two oldest boy cubs from a fresh kill. At 2 years old now, their time may finally have come to venture out into the wider world.
 
The other main news from the lions last month was the long-expected presentation of 2 new cubs to the pride. Having seen the males mating with one of the River females some months ago, we were hopeful of adding some more cuteness to the area - and the latest bundles of joy are most definitely that! With 16 older cousins, they have quickly learned to stand up for themselves and are proving confident and rambunctious individuals. Probably already 2-3 months old at their reveal, their mother was wise to keep them safely guarded from so many bossy family members until now. All-in, the pride now stands at 28 individuals - a mammoth number! However, the apparent departure of the two young males relieves a little pressure off the females for now. 


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Tanda Tula update

So, a little over a week has passed since the unexpected arrival of the two new Skorro male lions into the central Timabvati.  And while a dark cloud is still hanging over the future of the River Pride, the past week has been a comparatively peaceful one, but I still fear that this is just the calm before the inevitable storm.

As mentioned, the lion dynamics remained fairly calm this week even with the new Skorro males hanging around.  Their tracks were seen criss-crossing the Tanda Tula concession most days as they explore their new surrounds.  Early in the week, this wandering brought them into contact with the Mayambula lionesses, and we found three lionesses throwing themselves at one of the Skorro males after a day’s worth of tracking.  Interestingly, they were found mating in the very same place that we saw the Mayambula’s mating with Nharhu males only two weeks ago!


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At first, I thought that this was the first meeting between these males and the Mayambula Pride.  Reflecting on the situation, I began to suspect that they had met up before to the East of our concession where we had been hearing reports of the Mayambula Pride moving around before their return.  Either way, the lionesses seemed only too happy to have these males in the area, and the next day a mating pair was again found in the area, but this time with two other interested parties.  The first was a collection of six Mayambula lionesses, including the younger females born at the end of 2018.  More surprisingly was a report of the limping Nharhu male being seen near to the mating lions.  I however have yet to see images of this and do suspect that it was merely a case of mistaken identity.  It would be particularly unusual for an injured male lion to be hanging around so close to the lions that are out to get him.


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Later in the week the roars of the limping male close to Tanda Tula Field Camp brought the Skorro males into the area, at which point the Nharhu male seemed to move out of the area as the roars of the Skorro males got closer.  The Mayambula Pride spent some time in the area but proved themselves to be quite elusive; towards the end of the week, we heard that they killed a buffalo just North of our concession in an area that they have not been known to frequent before. Perhaps they will start pushing deeper into our concession as the roars of the Nharhu males fade into a distant memory.

The River Pride managed to stay out of trouble this past week, although a report of one of the lionesses limping very badly led to some specualtion that the Skorro males had already begun their pursuit of the pride.  It appears to be a paw injury more-likely originating from a hunting incident, but by the end of the week the lioness was able to at least put some pressure on her paw.  The pride had a wildebeest kill early in the week, but then disappeared to the North before returning a couple of days later.  We were able to catch up with the lionesses and cubs not too far from Nkhari Homestead, all looking in good shape.  With the Skorro males being distracted by the Mayambula Pride, perhaps there may be a glimmer of hope for the River Pride to avoid trouble, but at this point, it is a very, very faint light.



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Three of the Giraffe lionesses and the young Giraffe male were seen on a few occasions in the West this week and provided for the best lion sighting of late.  It appeared that the lionesses had caught a wildebeest but after a lot of persistence they were pushed off by a large clan of hyenas.  The commotion brought the young male to the scene, and he succeeded in claiming back the scant remains of the wildebeest as no fewer than 18 hyenas did their best to push him off, but it was all to no avail.  The sounds accompanying this deadly game of chess were quite something to witness.
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A Timbavati update 
The two big and strong Mbiri males made a brief visit Ngala Private Game Reserve. With the Mayambula pride spending time in the central parts of Timbavati and the females in heat. Let's see what happens in the area
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ZigZag Mbiri seen just a few minutes ago on WE, mating with one of Skorro females. What a beast of a lion!


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The bigger Mbiri male seen mating now on AndBeyond Ngala Private Game Reserve. 
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