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Lions of Tanzania (Serengeti, Ngorongoro and others)

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(03-23-2023, 11:17 AM)BigLion39 Wrote: Great photo of him as a young boy! Hope we get to see their sons grow up and take some prides too. I bet they will be just as impressive!

Agreed, hope the C-Boy male lineage is continue. I think, Snyggve&Tryggve should already have some more elder young adult descendants of their 7-year rule.
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( This post was last modified: 03-23-2023, 05:22 PM by Lipstick2 )

Anyway, is there anybody who know the Serengeti lions better? I have a special question:
There was a great documentary on Nat Geo around 2010 with a well-known title as 'Super Pride'. According to them, the pride live(d) its life somewhere in the central parts of Serengeti and they had 2 stronge pride males (according to them, they were at about their 8 years, but I doubt it, they seemed younger to me). Does anybody know who were them? 
One of them was a very beautiful specimen with a quite dark mane and with something special 'black hoops' around his both eyes (not injuries). I would really like to know who was he/them. Here is a screenshot of him:

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And you can see him/them in a shortened version of this documentary from a form of Nat Geo's Channel immediately at the start and they also can be seen better at 4:00 minutes:




Or in this version of the documentary at about 0:50 seconds:




I would be very grateful if somebody could help me in this...
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( This post was last modified: 03-27-2023, 01:45 PM by DARK MANE )

Kiduku, 1/7 males that killed snyggve and tryggve, mating with snyggve daughter.
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Edit update.... there were more short videos and pics along with this sighting. This is NOT Trygvve.


Not sure if this is confirmed or not but I saw this post about Trygvve. Not sure if this lion can be id'd from this pic or if there are any other pics?



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Original post from yesterday on IG...


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Not sure if people here know but to be clear about Trygvve, he is NOT the original blood brother of BJ. The real Trygvve disappeared a few years ago which was BJ's real brother.  Not sure how how and why they called this male Trygvve as well but it sure confuses people. Even so, glad he's been found alive
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(05-24-2023, 02:00 PM)BigLion39 Wrote: Not sure if people here know but to be clear about Trygvve, he is NOT the original blood brother of BJ. The real Trygvve disappeared a few years ago which was BJ's real brother.  Not sure how how and why they called this male Trygvve as well but it sure confuses people. Even so, glad he's been found alive

There is obviously great confusion on this.   I think some are awaiting confirmation.
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(05-25-2023, 12:16 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote: There is obviously great confusion on this.   I think some are awaiting confirmation.

There is no confusion, the real blood brother of BJ  the real Trygvve disappeared  some time ago when they were younger, then BJ wasn't seen for a while, popped up with this now famous Trygvve. Off the top of my head I don't remember the actual dates and sequences but thats 100% confirmed by the people that followed them. 


Now another thing, this new pic taken rescenrly by the guide Tariq is NOT Trygvve. It is a different male.
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(05-25-2023, 11:25 AM)BigLion39 Wrote:
(05-25-2023, 12:16 AM)T_Ferguson Wrote: There is obviously great confusion on this.   I think some are awaiting confirmation.

There is no confusion, the real blood brother of BJ  the real Trygvve disappeared  some time ago when they were younger, then BJ wasn't seen for a while, popped up with this now famous Trygvve. Off the top of my head I don't remember the actual dates and sequences but thats 100% confirmed by the people that followed them. 


Now another thing, this new pic taken rescenrly by the guide Tariq is NOT Trygvve. It is a different male.

Right.. I know that, but they had been calling Bob Jr.'s partner Marley/Trygvve for a long time even though they weren't brothers, and this iteration of Trygvve is not the real Trygvve, but they are still trying to say this is Bob Jr's most recent partner that was thought to be dead.
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(05-25-2023, 06:49 PM)T_Ferguson Wrote: but they are still trying to say this is Bob Jr's most recent partner that was thought to be dead.

Yes I have been seeing that on FB/IG. Its blatantly obvious the male in the pics and videos looks nothing like the most rescent Trygvve, BJ's coalition partner.
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One of Lake Quintlet males. Ngorongoro crater, Tanzania.

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Sad news... In addition to be one of the most maned male lion in wild, it also was one of the biggest (509 pounds, i.e. 267 kilograms). An other remarkable fact about it is that he has been living alone for its almost whole life (13 years), constantly migrating between the Serengeti park and the Ngorongoro crater. RIP beautiful king !






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(05-29-2023, 01:20 AM)Spalea Wrote: Sad news... In addition to be one of the most maned male lion in wild, it also was one of the biggest (509 pounds, i.e. 267 kilograms). An other remarkable fact about it is that he has been living alone for its almost whole life (13 years), constantly migrating between the Serengeti park and the Ngorongoro crater. RIP beautiful king !







509 lbs = 230 kg and 267 kg = 588 lbs.

He was 230 kg, right?
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@"Apex Titan

"509 lbs = 230 kg and 267 kg = 588 lbs"



Sorry for the fault ! In the vidéo it is précised 590 pounds and not 509 pounds, thus 267 kilograms.
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(05-29-2023, 11:10 PM)Spalea Wrote: @"Apex Titan

"509 lbs = 230 kg and 267 kg = 588 lbs"



Sorry for the fault ! In the vidéo it is précised 590 pounds and not 509 pounds, thus 267 kilograms.

590 lbs is an exceptionally large lion. Do you know who weighed this lion? Is there an actual weight record of this lion?

No doubt he was a large, powerful looking male lion, but he looked more in the mid-upper 400 lb range, nowhere near 590 lbs. Of course, this is just my visual estimation, I can easily be wrong.
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@Apex Titan 

" 590 lbs is an exceptionally large lion. Do you know who weighed this lion? Is there an actual weight record of this lion?


No doubt he was a large, powerful looking male lion, but he looked more in the mid-upper 400 lb range, nowhere near 590 lbs. Of course, this is just my visual estimation, I can easily be wrong. "

I have again listened this video. So sorry again, it was one of its two brothers "Blaze" who was weighed in 2017 at 590 pounds before being unfortunately killed because of human conflits (from 3mn15 within the video)...  And it's asserted that this lion was of the same size and attested by the guards to be "the most impressive male which they had the privilege to observe".

Otherwise, I am like you, I  am not able to make an accurate estimation of its weight only by seeing a video. If the lioness seems to be puny close to it, ok, but otherwise I can only tell it's a powerful male in its prime age.
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