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Lions of Sabi Sands

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Kambula male mating with an Nkuhuma female

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Styx Young Male with a Kambula lioness 

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(10-05-2024, 08:19 PM)Fenix123 Wrote: Styx Young Male with a Kambula lioness 

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That is not Kambula lioness 12?
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(10-05-2024, 10:42 PM)Go131810 Wrote: That is not Kambula lioness 12?

Yes it is.
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Another great summary by Scar 10.05.24




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So the west street males bloodline lives in about every pride in sabi sands WOW
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Nkuhuma, NK Breakaways, Msuthu, and Sand Rivers are not WSM descendents for all we know, this is a lot of prides.

And I'm not including Imbali and Torchwood as Sabi Sands prides.

Ximhungwe, Othawa, Mangheni, Tsalala, Talamati, Kambula, Ntsevu, Southern Pride and Styx are the prides with WSM blood.
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How are the talamatis but not msuthus?
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(10-06-2024, 08:14 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Nkuhuma, NK Breakaways, Msuthu, and Sand Rivers are not WSM descendents for all we know, this is a lot of prides.

And I'm not including Imbali and Torchwood as Sabi Sands prides.

Ximhungwe, Othawa, Mangheni, Tsalala, Talamati, Kambula, Ntsevu, Southern Pride and Styx are the prides with WSM blood.

Nukhuma may have. also the Sand River may have been with three relatives from the male lions mentioned.
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(10-06-2024, 08:42 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: How are the talamatis but not msuthus?

The lionesses are not daughters of the lone one; relative of lions mentioned.
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(10-06-2024, 08:42 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: How are the talamatis but not msuthus?
As @Go131810 said, the lone lioness (Tiyelele) didn't mother the Msuthus
Tiyele is daughter to Selatis, that are grandsons to the Rollercoasters. Meanwhile the others aren't related to Selatis nor other lions in the WSM lineage (thats so far as i remember)
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Mala Mala September Game report for the Sand River pride and other lions.


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Any word on the Southern Pride recently? The lone lioness rebuilding that pride may be the fastest I have seen, she has done such a remarkable job.
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Some more, high quality footage of the Torchwood boys, filmed on September 22. They are less developed than I thought based on the video where they chased the lioness. Especially the younger one. He barely has a mane. I do not know his age but it is not uncommon for young males to still be with their pride around that age / appearance. Good thing he is with his older stronger brother.

Hope they stay safe out there in the "wild North".

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Larger PCM mating with... who exactly? It is in the West going by the guide, but this isn't the older Ximhungwe, could it be the younger one, the Othawa Breakaway? Doesn't strike me as her either.

But if it is, it means the cubs are indeed independent and both adults realized it, starting to mate again.

If so, they are probably the most impressive case of young lions reaching independence as they were born in August last year, so they're barely over 1yo.



On top of that, the 10 months old Msuthu cubs made a kill of their own:

Following the sound, we were astonished to discover that the 10-month-old cubs had successfully brought down a young bushbuck. Such a feat is a significant confidence booster, as it's rare for predators this age to take down antelope on their own. Each failed hunt teaches them a lesson, but this rare success was a major step in their development. The cubs growled fiercely at one another, each vying for a share of the kill. Within minutes, the bushbuck was entirely devoured.

https://www.sabisabi.com/discover/weekly...sh-vol-519


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In this case the bushbuck was probably too young to properly escape, but the cubs showed the proper technique to kill it... could it be that we're seeing a trend of lionesses developing quicker in the region, or is it just a coincidence?

2yo Southern subs mating and giving birth; 3,5yo Othawas independent just over 1,5yo; 2 Othawa cubs in the Ximhungwe pride independent at barely over 1yo; Msuthu cubs making a proper kill at 10 months old...

Of course, at the same time we have Tsalala and the Kambula Breakaway who were/are late to mate and become mothers, though it's not like they weren't independent way before that.
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