There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
--- Peter Broekhuijsen ---

  • 8 Vote(s) - 4.5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Lions of Sabi Sands

Panama Mapokser Offline
Contributor
*****

Gijimas chased 4 Nkhulu from their territory, but once they reached Nkhulu's territory in MalaMala, the Nkhulus chased them back.
3 users Like Mapokser's post
Reply

United Kingdom KM600 Offline
Senior Member
****

(06-30-2024, 09:23 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Gijimas chased 4 Nkhulu from their territory, but once they reached Nkhulu's territory in MalaMala, the Nkhulus chased them back.

Didn’t know all this but once again Gijimas successfully defended their territory while being outnumbered. I actually think it’s necessary they stay putting pressure on the Nkhulus every once in a while, being significantly outnumbered. Make the Nkhulus expand elsewhere once the time comes.
2 users Like KM600's post
Reply

Ngonya Offline
Contributor
*****
( This post was last modified: 06-30-2024, 09:47 PM by Ngonya )

(06-30-2024, 09:34 PM)KM600 Wrote: Didn’t know all this but once again Gijimas successfully defended their territory while being outnumbered. I actually think it’s necessary they stay putting pressure on the Nkhulus every once in a while, being significantly outnumbered. Make the Nkhulus expand elsewhere once the time comes.
I rewatched this same situation recently in another angle posted on FB back then.

According to the guide, the Nkhulus were roaring back at some point in the chase
(early may):




She seems to have confused Gijimas with Plains Camp  Laughing ?
2 users Like Ngonya's post
Reply

United States kobe8jf1234 Offline
Regular Member
***

(06-30-2024, 09:23 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Gijimas chased 4 Nkhulu from their territory, but once they reached Nkhulu's territory in MalaMala, the Nkhulus chased them back.

is dreadlocks other 2 brother alive ?
Reply

Ngonya Offline
Contributor
*****

(06-30-2024, 10:23 PM)kobe8jf1234 Wrote: is dreadlocks other 2 brother alive ?
other 2 brothers are alive but roam Kruger and dont visit Sabi Sand often

Dreadlocks is likely gone.
3 users Like Ngonya's post
Reply

Poland NLAL11 Offline
Regular Member
***
( This post was last modified: 07-01-2024, 12:30 AM by NLAL11 Edit Reason: Mistakenly wrote '24-26 June' )

Elephant Plains Lion Sightings 24-30 June.

https://elephantplains.co.za/big-5-blog/...30th-june/

Tuesday, 25 June 2024
  • Four Kambula male lions and one lioness feeding on a buffalo kill at Champaign Clearing.
  • Two Plains Camp male lions and three Nkuhuma lionesses feeding on a waterbuck bull kill north of Serengeti Open.
Wednesday, 26 June 2024
  • The Kruger male lion and the four Imbali lionesses, mobile north from Big Dam into the Manyeleti Game Reserve.
  • The four Kambula male lions and their sister, mobile south into Torchwood from Cruse Camp driveway.
Thursday, 27 June 2024
  • The two Plains Camp male lions, resting on Ngwenya South.
Friday, 28 June 2024
  • Two Nkuhuma lionesses, were chased up a dead marula tree by the EP hyena clan at the junction of EP driveway and Elephant Carcass.
Saturday, 29 June 2024
  • Six Nkuhuma lioness moving east on Sandy Patch.
Sunday, 30 June 2024
  • Four Kambula male lions and one Kambula lioness sleeping at Johnsons’ Clearing.
  • Six Nkuhuma lionesses feeding on a buffalo kill on Galago Shortcut.
3 users Like NLAL11's post
Reply

United Kingdom KM600 Offline
Senior Member
****
( This post was last modified: 07-01-2024, 12:56 AM by KM600 )

Gijima vs Nkhulu chase. LM Gijima really could have recreated Kinky Tail vs Majigilanes. Guessing DM Gijima was a bit behind but nonetheless chasing 4 young males and being so close really could’ve ended bad for him. 

9 users Like KM600's post
Reply

adamstocks16 Offline
Member
**
( This post was last modified: 07-01-2024, 01:30 AM by adamstocks16 )

(07-01-2024, 01:16 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-01-2024, 12:35 AM)KM600 Wrote: Gijima vs Nkhulu chase. LM Gijima really could have recreated Kinky Tail vs Majigilanes. Guessing DM Gijima was a bit behind but nonetheless chasing 4 young males and being so close really could’ve ended bad for him. 

Balls on this guy lol.

In all seriousness though LM Gijima doesn’t hesitate to charge into these encounters, it was actually him who initiated the previous one with DM Gijima supporting from behind. Once the Nkhulus realised they had the numbers they turned the tables and chased back but impressive attitude from Gijimas nonetheless.
2 users Like adamstocks16's post
Reply

Croatia Tr1x24 Offline
Top Contributor
******

(07-01-2024, 01:28 AM)adamstocks16 Wrote: ???

In all seriousness though LM Gijima doesn’t hesitate to charge into these encounters, it was actually him who initiated the previous one with DM Gijima supporting from behind. Once the Nkhulus realised they had the numbers they tuned the tables and chased back but seriously impressive attitude from Gijimas nonetheless.

Confidence displayed here (and on previous encounters) is the reason why Nkhulus "struggle" with them.

Less confident and less bold males would "crack" under that many males fairly quickly.

I dont think Gijimas are affraid of Nkhulus, they know each others very well at this point.

Also, Gijimas where seen more in their territory since Nkhulus become territorial, then other way around (even mating with SR female).

We will see if this is sign that Nkhulus are interested into that area or if things will settle down again as before.
4 users Like Tr1x24's post
Reply

Ttimemarti Offline
Senior Member
****

At the end of the day the gijima are very lucky these guys are not healthy otherwise it would not be good but this was very impressive by the smaller gijima even if his brother was also chasing them and you can see the smaller gijima started to slow down at the end of the video
Reply

Panama Mapokser Offline
Contributor
*****

I agree that if all Nkhulus were healthy, they would have ousted the Gijimas a long time ago.

Still, it's extremely impressive how the Gijimas are here "throwing hands" against a coalition of 6-7 territorial males, to a point that even when they lose a clash, they at least started the clash winning, and they only struggle when up against 4 or 5, when it was 2v3 they seemingly won easily despite the two strongest Nkhulus being among the 3.

We saw with nomadic Kambulas v BDM how the BDM quickly went nomadic just by trying to deal with 4 males that didn't even want to take over a territory even if it was for free. BDM realized it was 4 against 2 and the Kambulas wouldn't lose by just hearing or seeing them, and gave up.

Even a stronger duo, I'd argue, would flee without a second thought way back when 5 healthy nomadic Nkhulu + Delaporte challenged them. Being able to win that day was crazy, 1 hour of back and forth till they finally won.

Now Nkhulus are rarely with all their members and many are not 100% healthy, but they're fully territorial, in their prime years, still 6-7 strong and have met the Gijimas as 3, 4 and 5 males, still the Gijimas are holding the line.

Honestly I don't know if even the PCM would be able to do that, S.Avocas clearly couldn't despite their initial success displaying some insane feats of strength.

Hell forget about Sabi Sands, I'm not sure anyone else would be able to be doing what the Gijimas are doing, even the Mbiris couldn't defeat 3 Nharhus ( tho tbf they were individually very strong ), and even back in the past, powerful duos like Mlowathi and S.Matimba couldn't defeat or even hold the line for long against coalitions of 4-5 young males.

Gijimas however are here for over a half a year dealing with their territorial neighbors who are 6-7 males and have met them multiple times. Not only the Gijimas are holding the line but they are 2-2 in number of clashes, as well as having initial success in the clashes they ultimately loss, not to say that they are often in the offensive invading the Nkhulu territory in KK.

Gijimas are very "special"/unique lions in many ways, I can only hope they spread their great genes in all the prides they control, raising their offspring to adulthood, it's new blood in SS, and we couldn't ask for better genes.
5 users Like Mapokser's post
Reply

Croatia Tr1x24 Offline
Top Contributor
******
( This post was last modified: 07-01-2024, 04:54 PM by Tr1x24 )

(07-01-2024, 05:25 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Gijimas however are here for over a half a year dealing with their territorial neighbors

More then that, it will be now 1 year as Nkhulus ousted S.Avocas, and they clashed before that aswell.

(07-01-2024, 05:25 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Gijimas are very "special"/unique lions in many ways

I think that was very clear when they initially invaded 4 territorial males out of nowhere in a span of days, and at that time we taught it was 3 vs 4, but it was only these two in a 2 vs 4.

These guys know how to clash outnumbered.

Lets hope that confidence and boldnes dont cost them eventually, it would be shame.

As for "Gijimas would be long ousted if all Nkhulus where healthy" speculation, remember that Gijimas beat healthy Nkhulus earlier in 2023, when they invaded, then Nkhulus focused on S.Avocas.
1 user Likes Tr1x24's post
Reply

Ttimemarti Offline
Senior Member
****

Wait wait so the nhkulus killed the bigger southern avoca?
Reply

Croatia Tr1x24 Offline
Top Contributor
******

(07-01-2024, 06:47 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Wait wait so the nhkulus killed the bigger southern avoca?

No evidence, as since S.Avocas where seen far north around Hamiltons mating, thats last time bigger S.Avoca was seen.
1 user Likes Tr1x24's post
Reply

Ttimemarti Offline
Senior Member
****

(07-01-2024, 06:49 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(07-01-2024, 06:47 PM)Ttimemarti Wrote: Wait wait so the nhkulus killed the bigger southern avoca?

No evidence, as since S.Avocas where seen far north around Hamiltons mating, thats last time bigger S.Avoca was seen.

Then how did the nhkulus oust the southern Avocas when they weren’t even in the area if anything the southern Avoca chased all 7 caught and beat up dreadlocks roared and left the area
Reply






Users browsing this thread:
194 Guest(s)

About Us
Go Social     Subscribe  

Welcome to WILDFACT forum, a website that focuses on sharing the joy that wildlife has on offer. We welcome all wildlife lovers to join us in sharing that joy. As a member you can share your research, knowledge and experience on animals with the community.
wildfact.com is intended to serve as an online resource for wildlife lovers of all skill levels from beginners to professionals and from all fields that belong to wildlife anyhow. Our focus area is wild animals from all over world. Content generated here will help showcase the work of wildlife experts and lovers to the world. We believe by the help of your informative article and content we will succeed to educate the world, how these beautiful animals are important to survival of all man kind.
Many thanks for visiting wildfact.com. We hope you will keep visiting wildfact regularly and will refer other members who have passion for wildlife.

Forum software by © MyBB