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Lions of Sabi Sands
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 (04-04-2024, 12:30 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(04-03-2024, 10:32 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 I didn't say the other duos took territory from the BDM ( because they didn't want to ), I said they couldn't defend it from the opposition. Getting chased is a loss. Chasing back and forth, yes, but the BDM never chased anyone back, they were always the ones getting chased. The only territorial male they chased was the S8 male, they lost to him once and beat him in another occasion, and S8 was a lone 11yo male. Prime duos that have been together their entire life are expected to at least be strong enough to give a challenge to any other duo, but it seems the only duos the BDM are able to confront are 4yo nomads like the Talamatis back in the day. If the PCM, Gijima, Mantimahle or Ndhzenga were to meet, no one knows what'd happen but at least it'd be a challenge, it's unlikely any would dominate the other one easily/without any sort of resistance. However any of these 4 duos would not even register the BDM as a threat. The BDM were dominant for 1 year, but only because nobody tried to pressure them. If in the future they become dominant again, it's likely they'll be successful if they aren't luck enough to not have any territorial coalitions putting pressure, which is my point. Even Nhenha and NK who are considered a weak coalition put some resistance against the mighty PCM in their first clash as territorial males, and although later they were semi-nomadic and would always ran easily, they'd still keep challenging the PCM with their roars.  (04-04-2024, 01:46 AM)Mapokser Wrote:(04-04-2024, 12:30 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(04-03-2024, 10:32 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 I didn't say the other duos took territory from the BDM ( because they didn't want to ), I said they couldn't defend it from the opposition. GUYS LOOK. i am not sure aboth the others....but all this back and forth talk about who is and who isnt winning is all boring and exhaustive. I never like to predict behavior or make too much about short term activities cause as we know things in Lion Dynamis can turn on a dime!!! this is why if you notice, i don't get into the "oh yeah, these males are more powerful, or no, those are YADA YADA" that's just not my cup of tea. lets just let things play out and report on the results. I myself am more interested in knowing why if this reported sighting happened, why dont we have a single photo or video of the males either before or after. I suspect there's been some mis-reporting or mis interpretation of events. even Cedric (who is the supposed source of the events) changed his story several times changing the ID on who was involved. the Northern Sabi Sand, Mala Mala and Djuma are among the MOST COVERED areas in Kruger at large, yet we have ZERO evidence of these males activities.....sorry but I cant reconcile that. and I am not certain what we have heard is the full or true story yet. I certainly stand to be corrected....but then at least its due to actual evidence. 
Elephant Plains Lion Sightings 25-31 March
https://elephantplains.co.za/big-5-blog/...arch-2024/ Monday, 25 March 2024
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Saturday, 30 March 2024
Sunday, 31 March 2024 (No Sightings)
3 Nkhulu scent-marking, shared by an Umkumbe tracker.
Can the Umkumbe guides traverse to Kirkman's, or at least Lion Sands? In the North and West the guides can traverse through the entire area so I assume it's the same here. Nkhulus in Unkumbe would be bad news. 
I commented on a post about the nkhulu males and said I wish they would get healthy and the guide said they are fine. Are they?
 (04-05-2024, 08:23 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: I commented on a post about the nkhulu males and said I wish they would get healthy and the guide said they are fine. Are they? More than likely, the guide was just speaking about the specific males above who stay primarily in Sabi Sands. Dreadlocks and one or two others haven’t been spotted in a while. (04-05-2024, 07:32 AM)Mapokser Wrote: 3 Nkhulu scent-marking, shared by an Umkumbe tracker. Them being in Umkumbe would mean they'd gone through the whole of Gijimas territory, so seems unlikely. 
Its not that unlikely.
These are big territories only populated by a couple of lions which don't have radar or an alarm system. The chance of them running into the Gijimas by chance is pretty low as long they keep a low profile and don't linger. It would take effort by the Gijima males to track down and find them. Time will tell what these two are doing there but most likely they will move back in a few days without further incident. 
They can enter Umkumbe without going thru Gijimas territory, they just go north of Kirkmans Kamp into southern MalaMala and turn left, although that would lead them close to Ndhzengas territory in MalaMala, but they venture these areas before.
Regardless, i very much doubt that was exactly in Umkumbe, as Nkhulus look very relaxed and scent marking, looks like usual patrol of their territory. Umkumbe guides prob can traverse outside Umkumbe a bit, so i think this was prob somewhere on Kirkmans Kamp border or in southern MalaMala. (04-05-2024, 11:05 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: They can enter Umkumbe without going thru Gijimas territory, they just go north of Kirkmans Kamp into southern MalaMala and turn left, although that would lead them close to Ndhzengas territory in MalaMala, but they venture these areas before. Yeah fair, I didn't think of that. But it is quite a bit outside their territory, and as you said they didn't look like they were lions in another coalition's turf.
I'd be surprised if it was indeed in Umkumbe but since the Nkhulu knows their neighbors are duos, and being in 3 they have the upper hand, they don't have much reason to be afraid.
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